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[avv]

Guys do you realize that once you use steal no matter if its fail or not you are flagged? And flagged = free to kill.

Is this true? So if a player sees stuff disappearing from his inventory and he knows who did it, he can shoot the thief without guards interfering?

[_Youkai_]

Make it like UO. 

If you notice tha someone is stealing from you, you shout "Guards" then guards kill the bastard. If thief is to far away from you or already passed 10 secs  it will not work.

[Michaelh139]

Is this true? So if a player sees stuff disappearing from his inventory and he knows who did it, he can shoot the thief without guards interfering?

No this is an uneducated (lie).  I've looked at people's stuff with steal alot and not been tagged.

[Ganado]

No this is an uneducated (lie).  I've looked at people's stuff with steal alot and not been tagged.

You don't understand what the bug is. It isn't just if you LOOK at someones inventory via steal, you have to actually successfully steal something. And then you are still unprotected even if steal was successful. I tested it a little. 

[Sius]

No this is an uneducated (lie).  I've looked at people's stuff with steal alot and not been tagged.

Then it works differently in towns and bases. Anyway flagging work like magical thing that does not follow logic. As I see it one should get flagged only when he is spotted by player or by guard. By guard its obvious that they yell at you. But player don't poses the means how to report/flag thief yet. But I think what _Youkai_ said could be modified and used here. But not to kill thieves but just to flag them by other players. Once players will be able to flag thief, they can be 100% sure they can defend themselves with guns and kill him. Also this player flagging thing should be somehow checked by NPCs to prevent abuse so if someone sees and reports a thief then NPCs will focus on him for 3 min and if he try to steal again in this time he will most likely get flagged no matter what his sneak/steal skill is.

[Roachor]

tagging should be brought back, i never retaliate against thieves because half the time the guards defend them.

[Michaelh139]

tagging should be brought back, i never retaliate against thieves because half the time the guards defend them.

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And to the other comments on mine, I stand corrected, its just what he said was a bit vague...

[Ganado]

One thing I think we can all agree on is keep the dialogue that the guards say to "___, it seems like ___ is is interested in your possessions":

Some of the other phrases that are used don't say the thief's name, and if nothing else is done about tagging for now, this should at least be changed.

[Michaelh139]

One thing I think we can all agree on is keep the dialogue that the guards say to "___, it seems like ___ is is interested in your possessions":

Some of the other phrases that are used don't say the thief's name, and if nothing else is done about tagging for now, this should at least be changed.

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BTW, I was wondering if the thief doesn't get caught by gaurds is he still tagged for it?  Its buggin the hell out of me.  Cuss I once made a thief alt to see what its like and i stole a couple things without getting caught or tagged.

[Swinglinered]

Because of thief-related faggotry I've started to plasmagrenade thieves on sight. The guards may shoot me but I got nothing to lose.

Remember how it used to be?

Swarms of bluesuits on every map, thieving away.

[Quentin Lang]

Guys do you realize that once you use steal no matter if its fail or not you are flagged? And flagged = free to kill.

I've used steal to check what my gang mate has on his brahmin and without even trying to take anything I've leaved stealing menu. Right after that I've got msg that said "You've caused trouble in this town blablabla...". It works the same in NCR and everywhere else too. So in the end you can kill half of the NCR "citizens" without any response from guards because sooner or later almost every bluesuit newbie there tries his luck with steal skill.

Ha, i just SCIENTIFICALLY PROVED you are FALSE! Not long ago i made new character, got some random items on him and a shotty, went to NCR where friend of mine with thief alt waited me there. He stole 50 shotgun shells from me with around 200 steal %, i did aimed shot with shotgun to eyes on him and the guards made me into custard. Best part is i fucked my rep abit (not much), but the thief didnt get ANY REP PENALTY! This shit gets !QLANG SEAL OF APPROVAL! that this is one of the thousand cancers that KILL this game. Mwuaahahahahaa. Gentlemen. Thats all i have to say.

[Floodnik]

That's probably because guards didn't spot him. Sneaker thiefs have better life, because they can steal something when guards don't see them and they are still protected. But IF guards see you, then no matter if u fail or not u get tagged.

If you only open the steal window to check guy's items and don't try to steal them(move from one bar to another), you don't get unprotected. I think it's logical.

EDIT: Noticed that after the last update something's wrong and now thiefs have their paradise. Too bad my BadRobin is banned for dual log

[Quentin Lang]

No, we did it in the Bazaar. Like infront of the caravan shop.

[RavenousRat]

Noticed that after the last update something's wrong and now thiefs have their paradise.

Haha, no... 9/10 of all people at NCR = thieves. Everything you can do - plant brahmin shit at them. Sometimes someone in metal armor and a rifle comes to NCR and starting to shoot at thief, because he don't know yet about bug, and then it's really fun, because then comes a bomber who running to a crowd of that bluesuiters who trying to get his metal armor.

[Roachor]

No, we did it in the Bazaar. Like infront of the caravan shop.

I got killed for punching frosty, a known thief who steals constantly, in the eyes after he tried to steal from me. I mean I didn't have anything on me but wtf.