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I am awkward with Sniper r., but want to play SG
Lordus:
--- Quote from: vedaras on May 15, 2010, 09:25:53 pm ---i will repeat once again. Small guns has never been and will never been as good as big guns in bursting do you lack your brains to not understand that? All your suggestions and everything is to increase sg to an unbelievable amounts, teach those newbies how to play instead of making newbie suggestions.
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1) But this conception is nonsense. I accept this in games, where you start with small guns, like pistols, than you find another kind of weapons, better and bigger (shotguns, double barreled shotguns, minigun, than rocket launcher, plasma rifle and at the end Big Fucking Gun). But this Weapon conception is from year 1993 - Doom and Doom II. So if there will exist only one (or 2) weapons skill (fireamrs and energetic weapons), i can accept it, because i will have chance to take bigger gun, when i reach high level.
New games modifies this, because they re giving purpose for guns. Gun with better damage cant burst (Counter strike Magnum sniper rifle), fast bursting have not enough distance, ....
There is created very good, in my point of view, best model of balancing.. Team Fortress 2. The guns and playstyles are not separated only because it has, but because they are giving great opportunity of many tactic situations.
I dont want to create SUPER, TURBO HYPER SMALL GUN, i want to add more variety to existing PvP builds by little raising one of SG bursting guns ability.
I have direct question to developers: Are you considering that you will add playstyle role to weapons like Assault rifle, FN FAL or XL70E3?? Because now, if you dont choose sniper build, there is dead end in the SG player character progress. I never played WoW or something like this, but i dont think that there can exist something like this.
My suggestion is to create/modify As.rifle of gun, where you will have to chose single aimed or burst shot, both will be generally worst than BG burst or SNIPER critic shot, but this possibility of changing playstyle will be great benefit in the game.
2) If you will finish your school lesson of reading, you will find in text above, that we always tell to our new members to erase their existing char and create "family of chars" if they want to exist in Fonline world, because it is essential.
3) Vedaras, if you want to tell that post of anybody sucks, you dont have to do it. Everybody knows, that only your ideas are great and ideas of others sucks. You can save your bitrate from Moldavia or the country where you are for more needed people.
vedaras:
if you dont like conception of this game so then just stop playing. And it absolutely makes sense that miniguns designed to torn toughest armors and vehicles do more bursting damage then light infantry weapons. Well and if your guys made builds that suck then they will suck whats the problem? I cant take 10 IN 10 CH and then say that i cant do anything with my build on lvl 21 in pvp and make suggestions because of that. And as you see from votes already in, most players play small guns, dont try to make the most powerful fighting skill even more powered because your faction receives many retarded noobs applications. And as i see you keep tossing insults at me so i will try to make it clear. I dont give a shit who you are etc. and i just only tell my opinion and i have a right to do that. And if your suggestions receives only "you suck" opinions, then maybe your suggestions arent as good as you think for yourself.
RavenousRat:
You mean make SG-burster > BG-burster on long distance? So it'll be long range bursters. And of couse it's easy to explain, try to burst in Countersrtike with minigun and with commando (or whatever is it, I'm not CS-player), of couse scoped assault rifle more accurate, and you can do kinda aimed burst shots.
So if you give assault rifles less or even no bullet spread with range, it'll be what you want. At least to XL70E3, because it's scoped and has "Accurate" perk. But don't forget about FN-FAL, yes, it doesn't have scope, but.. who cares? Let assault rifle be like now, but make it powerful at pointblank, so it'll be kinda light BG, make it weakers than minigun, but stronger than 10mm SMG, because now assault rifle totally useless, and I can't understand why 10mm SMG is better than AK at point blank.
So, as I know FN-FAL don't have any weapon perk, add "Accurate" to it.
Then every SG that has "Accurate" weapon perk (or may be create special perk for this) will have no bullet spread with range, so Pancor Jackhammers, FN-FALs, XL70E3s, Combat Shotguns, CAWS, etc. will be better and more useful.
Any minigun/LSW must be > SG-bursting-rifles at close range, but any SG-bursting-rifles must be = or > BG at long range.
Lordus:
--- Quote from: vedaras on May 15, 2010, 10:01:24 pm ---if you dont like conception of this game so then just stop playing. And it absolutely makes sense that miniguns designed to torn toughest armors and vehicles do more bursting damage then light infantry weapons. Well and if your guys made builds that suck then they will suck whats the problem? I cant take 10 IN 10 CH and then say that i cant do anything with my build on lvl 21 in pvp and make suggestions because of that. And as you see from votes already in, most players play small guns, dont try to make the most powerful fighting skill even more powered because your faction receives many retarded noobs applications. And as i see you keep tossing insults at me so i will try to make it clear. I dont give a shit who you are etc. and i just only tell my opinion and i have a right to do that. And if your suggestions receives only "you suck" opinions, then maybe your suggestions arent as good as you think for yourself.
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1) This is OPEN beta test. You are the master of number of suggestions, if i will use same logic as you used, you are unsatisfied with the game, so you post suggestions, so my recomendation is same like yours, leave this game. This is absurd, is not it?
2) Do you know what is dogma? In medieval age, the catholic church did not wanted people washing, so people did not washed their bodies for centuries.
3) Developers dont want alting. = Fact,
They created many measures agains alting = Fact
They set proffestions, that you dont need alt to create your basic stuff = Fact
They did not balanced most powerfull weapons (except sniper riffle) of SG class, so major way of SG build tree progress is useless in PvP = Fact
Player vs. player interaction is major magnet of Fonline project = Fact
Most entertaining part of the PvP interaction, is PvP combat = (i hope) Fact
If players want to enjoy the most entertaining part of Fonline, they have to alting and powerbuilding = Fact
The previous fact denies the first one = Fact
4) How many aplication recieved your faction, Vedaras?
5) It is natural, that newbies will have wrong set up SPECIAL and SKILLS, but all aplicants were players of Fallout 1 or 2, big majority of Fallout Tactics, and majority at least tested Fallout 3. (this question is also part of our aplication form). Most of them finished Fallout 1/2 by multiple times (10x,30x .. not unusual numbers). So they are not retards, they are not idiots, THEY ONLY EXPECT, THAT IF THEY CHOOSE THEIR FAVOURITE PLAY STYLE THEY WILL BE ABLE TO CHALLENGE ENEMY PLAYERS, because they expected this is multiplayer one game. But the progress tree of SG players is cutted under the level of criticals weapons (Sniper r. and Laser rifle) and BG bursting weapons.
6) I recieved you suck only from you, and i have to remind you, that you are the one who starts the debate with vulgar worlds and insulting. So maybe, if you will avoid this behaviour, others will start to like you.
P.S.: Black marked text is only for Vedaras, the King.
Lil Jesus:
rocket launcher has its use, minigun, lsw, even flamer is useful.
but in SG only sniper is good to be against big gunners (cause of it's long distance, duh).
i believe its realistic, think about it, minigun bursts 40 bullets? assault rifle how much? much less for sure, so damage difference should be big. :) the only thing in BG i very much hate, is that they're very accurate in big distances, only gun that should be accurate in longest distances is LSW, minigun cause of big burst shouldnt be good (ex. about 10 bullets hit only in huge distance, if near, then 60-80% chance that all 40 bullets hit on target), rocket launcher, about 70% hit chance from longest distance, cause it has no navigation systems, does it?
P.S. my first sentences were about Damage, the other part is about Accuracy
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