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I am awkward with Sniper r., but want to play SG

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Lordus:
 Hello,
 as you know, i am former member of VSB. VSB is here from the begining of this opend beta project. Some members left, another joined.

 Our gang website is related to very old and very good Fallout fan site www.madbrahmin.cz ( i think that cca 10 years old website), so many players of Fallout sometimes visit this web for checking new updates, scenarios or just to talk. This is also our best way how to recruit newbies, or at least, how to help them.

 We have kind of application form for newbies, who wants to join us (VSB gang). One part of this dutie is to post yoiur own SPECIAL and other atributes screen. So we have very good statistical sample of newbies. We can simply recognize, if that player did play fonline or did not, because total newbies have their char attributes created from their Fallout single player experience. And here comes the reason cause of i created this thread.

 Small gunners aplication number was in same relation like biggunner, only minority was EW.. Most newbies were smallgunners, because they expected that the way from start is quite easy with 10mm pistol, than waiting many days for new big gun.

 Smalll gunners, all of them (except returning exmembers) created always the same mistake. I will tell you later, which kind of mistake. At first, i have to simply define something well known.

 In PvP, 2 kind of builds now win. 1) big constant damage on low and medium range 2) possibility of very big or instakill damage on high range. In first cathegory there are biggunners bursters, in second cathegory there are EW snipers, SG snipers and BG rocket launcher snipers*.

 The newbies SG mistake is that, that they expected, thay will level up their char and they will be able to succeed in PvP. (Yes, they expected this, because in out aplication form is also question Why they want to join us and very common answer is Because we dont want to be simple punished by PKs.). But they have a very big problem in their character building vision. NOBODY from SG newbies created their char with 10 pe and at least 6 luck. Most of them had 7 pe, and smaller luck. Some of them had tagged Fast shot trait.

 So problem is, that they expected their char will be able to defend on higher level but they are unable. Their character is unable to use sniper riffle as good as pure snipers and there is not any other PvP ready gun they can use (because all SG bursting weapons are very weak in comparsion to the BG bursting weapons). So they level up and than realize that their effort was useless.

 If some newbies realy want to join us we are saying: nice try, but better will be if you will erase this char and create: 1) fighter (we have already created every possible PvP builds ready to fight and win in PvP, junkies or not, we will be very surprised is someone will create new type of char which will dominate in the PvP (i think other major PvP gangs also have this knowledge)). 2) crafter or 2 (gun and armor) 3) maybe miner...

 But newbies who are not joining us or other PvP team does not have this experience but they have to challenge PK players.

 So my suggestion is very wide.

 Do something with this, maybe raise the ability of some small guns, maybe set LSW common for SG and BG class, or do something else, that will prevent disapointing of impossibility of choice of PvP ready gun if you are SG and you have not pure snipe build.

Drakonis:
bg noobs are supposed to lvl up with cheapass flamer, man

Roachor:
You can make a pretty decent unarmed/thrower with a crit build, gives you the unarmed pvp grinding and the insane grenade damage later. Hell you can even eye shot people for fun with throwing knives. I'd suggest taking one hander for the 20% to aim for throwing, seriously cuts down on how many points you need to hit max range.

Lordus:

--- Quote from: Roachor on May 15, 2010, 12:04:06 am ---You can make a pretty decent unarmed/thrower with a crit build, gives you the unarmed pvp grinding and the insane grenade damage later. Hell you can even eye shot people for fun with throwing knives. I'd suggest taking one hander for the 20% to aim for throwing, seriously cuts down on how many points you need to hit max range.

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 Problem is that newbies are forced to making alts, because there is not any alternative to small gun critical weapon. Their builds are not constucted for it. I remember, when devs little nerf 5mm ammo, but they forgot that this kind of ammo is used in Assault rifle too. But they dont care of this.

 GIVE SG one burst weapon that can be effectively used in PvP in some way. Thank you (p90 cant because 25 hex long range in comparsion to lsw and only 2 bursts are ridiculous).

Frosti:
^ or maybe small guns shold stay as a 'sniper' weapon? and burst ability of some small guns is nice add.

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