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Drakonis:
--- Quote from: Lordus on May 17, 2010, 04:09:10 PM ---
Dont forget that EW Laser rifle has 2x bigger damage than SG rifle. Dont make from SG snipers rifles second class snipers...
I admit that EW are weak in PvP, but at least, they are more usable than non sniper small guns.
If you lower the protection of EW in major armors, what will be the difference between SG sniper and EW sniper? please, dont tell me that the PRICE. Because in PvP, there are no poor people, PvP is group of people who have time to craft their favourite weapons.
My suggestion is this. EW snipers should do bigger damages, but in every armor class, there should be 2 equal (by price) armours. One will little more reduce the EW, second will not. So SG snipers (and smallguners at all) will do more constant damage to this armors, but EW will do bigger damage to one kind of armor.
You can admit, that this is current system, but my answer is: look at current pvp, almost nobody use EW snipers, only because they are bad now.
Motto: Benefits from player ingame wealth, plurality of resources, should mean that player has bigger variety of choices, not that he has possibility to get more powerfull gun (in all or major attributes).
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Energy weapon do have bigger damage than Small guns sniper rifle, however if you check ammo properties of .223 so commonly and mosty used you will see that it gives huge adventage over laser and plasma. .223 reduce targets AC and DR by 20. thats like HALF OF THE ARMOR. Suddenly sniper rifle with lower damage hits more than a laser rifle with 25-50. Why? because armors have crazy energy resistance combined with crappy hard to get MFC that do not even lower this resistance. Even if armors would have similar Energy and Normal damage resistance- sniper rifle still hit pretty much the same and will be a LOT MORE ACCURATE(-20 AC, Scoped). Solutions? Make MFC lower energy resistance or simply decrease the crazy resistance of armors to a reasonable level. Sniper rifle will still remain superior at longest range(because AC) while laser rifle will hit a bit more but will most likely require a lot more skill to snipe effectively.
PS. have in mind that energy weapons should be superior to small guns, because of pain in the ass ammo and more skill % required to shot them. Also energy gunners dont have a lvl 1 quest that gives free 15% to small guns etc etc. Oh, and tesla armor, man :D(since its made from metal armor i think it should remain its normal armor properties... just like in FT... damn they had it all covered)
AC bonus: 15
Damage Type Damage Resistance Damage Threshold
normal: 35% 4
fire: 45% 7
gas: 0% 0
explode: 20% 4
energy: 85% 15
electrical: 10% 0
effects: -20% Sneak
weight: 40 pounds
cost: $11000
Midnight:
"Also energy gunners dont have a lvl 1 quest that gives free 15% to small guns"
If i'm right you need to be equiped with a CA and low SG skill for this quest to triger right? You have seen many guys in CA with less than 45% in SG if they plan a sniper build?
But if it's the issue, yeah put this quest for energie too, it will so usefull ...
Drakonis:
--- Quote from: Midnight on May 17, 2010, 04:39:18 PM ---"Also energy gunners dont have a lvl 1 quest that gives free 15% to small guns"
If i'm right you need to be equiped with a CA and low SG skill for this quest to triger right? You have seen many guys in CA with less than 45% in SG if they plan a sniper build?
But if it's the issue, yeah put this quest for energie too, it will so usefull ...
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er no. you just go there with low Small guns (45 ish untagged, more tagged) and you get free 15%.
But I find it hilarious that you thought you need a CA to trigger that quest xD I mean come on man...
Lordus:
--- Quote from: Drakonis on May 17, 2010, 04:26:37 PM ---
PS. have in mind that energy weapons should be superior to small guns, because of pain in the ass ammo and more skill % required to shot them. Also energy gunners dont have a lvl 1 quest that gives free 15% to small guns etc etc. Oh, and tesla armor, man :D
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This is the different point of veiw. If EW will be superior to SG, in pvp there will be no SG sniper.. it is fact. Only best PvP chars are in PvP. If you lower this resistance, BG will protest, because they will not be so strong like now, and because nobody wants to nerf anything, they will raise BG power.
Midnight:
Anyway 45% is what i started with and i have the trait good natured that lower it ... And i don't really think it should be considered as an advantage for most of people.
And the original post was about FN Fal not energie weapon :/
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