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Author Topic: [Namecolorizing suggestion] Flag next to names  (Read 5649 times)

Jack_Fr

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[Namecolorizing suggestion] Flag next to names
« on: May 04, 2010, 11:12:38 pm »

If some of you have already tried to take care of a namecolorizing which contains the names of numerous factions, you know that's not a piece of cake.
And there is one main explanation : too many factions to distinguish each colours. There is 16 million (if I don't make mistakes) of colours possibilities, and this is enough, but your eyes will have difficulties to recognize each of them and your memory will have difficulties to remember who are the light yellow, the less light yellow and the less less light yellow.
So, I tried to imagine a solution for this.

I thought about a flag system which would be next to the player name. It could be a square (or another thing but I think a single form, the square, would be the simplest) which would contain a symbol with colours (limited to two). I chose to make 10x10pixels for flags in my examples.

Let me give you some of them...

These squares are example of different symbols you could use.


Practically it would become something like that...



To set it in namecolorizing.txt, it would be possible to add some informations, like that (symbol ; color1 ; color2).

So, a little summary :
- Add flag (between 9*9 and 12*12pixels) next to players name
- Possibility to set a symbol (7 possibilities here) and two colours

It would make us able to do a flag for a faction and a colour name depending of diplomatic relationship, for example.

Now, the single real difficulty, if players community and devs are interested, is to estimate the coding time of this suggestion.
And I would be happy if some devs would answer to this question.
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Re: [Namecolorizing suggestion] Flag next to names
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2010, 11:32:48 pm »

Imho this would be the PERFECT way how to add gang recognition system into the game too. Anyway I think this is a brilliant idea.

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Re: [Namecolorizing suggestion] Flag next to names
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2010, 06:16:41 am »

It has been already said that there won't be clan tags, symbols etc in the game.
I personally don't see a reason too, also it looks just odd when people have such symbols next to their names.

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Re: [Namecolorizing suggestion] Flag next to names
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2010, 12:17:46 pm »

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It has been already said that there won't be clan tags, symbols etc in the game.
So, sorry for this suggestion, I didn't know that it has been already said.

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I personally don't see a reason too
Perhaps you don't see one because you're not implicated in the gang war of the "faction mod". Well, imagine, there is more than 20 factions identified in the Cajuns namecolorizing. Do you think you would be able to remember a 20 colours colours code ? Since the time of NA vs. DA, we taste what is a big namecolorizing, and as faction players, we know that's hard to know who is who. But you like to know who is who, whenever, being shot or making RP. So, I just tried to find a system which allow you to have more than 20 gangs in your namecolorizing without making a big memory effort to recognize who is in front of you.

And I regret that this suggestion have already been eliminated. Because I think it's the only solution to this problem. Perhaps my flags are not very beautiful, but remember, that are 10 on 10 pixels flags, so, it's very light to make something more graphic, and I thought that in the interest of the game, a simple form is better, without giving choice to players for something more spectacular (and useless).
By the way, I would like to precise something, in my suggestion, these flags would be visible only for the ones who would use a namecolorizing with the flags settings. You could ever play without any flag. So, these are not an obligation.
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Re: [Namecolorizing suggestion] Flag next to names
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2010, 12:21:38 pm »

i like this personally, would be interesting to see implemented.
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Re: [Namecolorizing suggestion] Flag next to names
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2010, 01:19:45 pm »

I kinda lack general social features in FOnline. Ingame friend/foe list, some identification of gang members (through this idea or only in chat window with something like "There is a huge brahmin painted over his armor" etc.). Things like remote comunitacion (radios would be awesome if they come within your pipboy). Game sticks to "what would be real in real wasteland" too much and it sometimes feels like devs forget they are developing the game not the simulator.

Again this is great idea and it would be shame to let it go (+ color blind players would love your for this).

Edit: Just take a look at favicons. 16x16 and you can create some really nice stuff with that.
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Re: [Namecolorizing suggestion] Flag next to names
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2010, 01:59:44 pm »

It has been already said that there won't be clan tags, symbols etc in the game.
I personally don't see a reason too, also it looks just odd when people have such symbols next to their names.
Cause of...realism? Its odd that everybody has floating text in mid air to begin with dontchathink?
Option to disable flags like names -> problem solved.
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Re: [Namecolorizing suggestion] Flag next to names
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2010, 03:14:42 pm »

I think it's be usefull.
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Re: [Namecolorizing suggestion] Flag next to names
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2010, 03:31:34 pm »

Should be done automatically, without Namecolorizing. When you create a gang, you choose the flag, and then all the members have it.
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Re: [Namecolorizing suggestion] Flag next to names
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2010, 03:35:29 pm »

omagad, need this :)

+1, great idea.

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Re: [Namecolorizing suggestion] Flag next to names
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2010, 03:41:14 pm »

Quote from: Izual
Should be done automatically, without Namecolorizing. When you create a gang, you choose the flag, and then all the members have it.

It could be a way to use it. But I'm not sure it would be the best way. For two reasons. First of all, you would take the risk to have too much gang with a similar flag. And the second problem is that some characters are member of Brotherhood of Steel or Enclave, but in practice, they are like any full member of their gang. So, this way to use flag would need some changes in game. Whereas I'm trying to find find the simplest and the fastest coding solution.
But I agree, it's one way to use it. If this suggestion is implemented, it could be a possibility further in the game life, once tried.
« Last Edit: May 05, 2010, 03:43:32 pm by Jack_Fr »
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Re: [Namecolorizing suggestion] Flag next to names
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2010, 04:36:36 pm »

+1 To add it with NC. I thing you can't add it with faction because you have to many faction on 2238...
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Re: [Namecolorizing suggestion] Flag next to names
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2010, 04:51:51 pm »

So, sorry for this suggestion, I didn't know that it has been already said.


Sorry, didn't want to sound rude. ;)
I just recall Lexx that he said several times clan tags won't be implemented.

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Re: [Namecolorizing suggestion] Flag next to names
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2010, 07:53:59 pm »

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Sorry, didn't want to sound rude.
There is no problem. It's just that one of the biggest nuisance on a forum is when one thing is repeated 90 000 time in 30 000 different threads. I was just making my apologizes for repetition.

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I just recall Lexx that he said several times clan tags won't be implemented.
And do you think he will be against this idea even if it would be applied by namecolorizing ? I ask you that because namecolorizing is personal, so it wouldn't concern everyone and only the ones who want to see these flags.
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Re: [Namecolorizing suggestion] Flag next to names
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2010, 08:05:55 pm »

It has been already said that there won't be clan tags, symbols etc in the game.
I personally don't see a reason too, also it looks just odd when people have such symbols next to their names.

We don't want to and will not add clan tags, which are visible for all, always. This will never happen.

If the flag-idea would work like coloring names (everyone has his own file), then it's not something that would be shut down from the beginning. But as it's involving to display a) new and custom images and b) right near the name, I wouldn't count on anything like that soon.
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