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Author Topic: Restrict insta kills to players that have the better critical perk  (Read 8236 times)

Re: Restrict insta kills to players that have the better critical perk
« Reply #30 on: April 20, 2010, 05:53:16 pm »

If you did insta-kill how the hell he could have survived?  ???


It deals X damage, where X is victim current HP.
If you have 0 HP, you're not dead, you're laying with 0 HP, and his friends FA him.

If guards won't crit me so fast, 2nd eye-shot should killed him.
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Re: Restrict insta kills to players that have the better critical perk
« Reply #31 on: April 20, 2010, 06:46:13 pm »

Last season, no one was complaining about lack of instantkills, they were present but happened very rarely. I agree with Kilgore to leave instantkills at 1-2%. The thing is that sniper still has some nasty attacks like KO/KD/blind/bypass and was meant to be a support "class".
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Re: Restrict insta kills to players that have the better critical perk
« Reply #32 on: April 20, 2010, 06:59:52 pm »

Ok, maybe rarely instants but then, increase chance to hit someone to eyes when he standing sideway or back. Shoot to head from Laser Rifle to someone who have Metal or Combat Armor is VERY weak ...
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Re: Restrict insta kills to players that have the better critical perk
« Reply #33 on: April 20, 2010, 07:13:07 pm »

i would like idea to have instant kill chance according to weapon. Only few weapons should have this ability who are really expensive and not really balanced like plasma rifle, bozar, XL70E3, gauss rifle, pulse rifle. Now even ghoul with 1 melee damage can instantly kill you hth wtf?
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Re: Restrict insta kills to players that have the better critical perk
« Reply #34 on: April 20, 2010, 07:36:38 pm »

Last season, no one was complaining about lack of instantkills, they were present but happened very rarely. I agree with Kilgore to leave instantkills at 1-2%. The thing is that sniper still has some nasty attacks like KO/KD/blind/bypass and was meant to be a support "class".

Are you sure they even were there? I mean before last wipe we had them and they were as much bullshit as today. Honestly do we really need awps from counterstrike? In every game where instakills exist they are always scorned. But in a game where they don't exist, nobody misses them.
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Re: Restrict insta kills to players that have the better critical perk
« Reply #35 on: April 20, 2010, 09:10:46 pm »

Yeah you could do them before last wipe, but a friend have done an experience: on total BB gun magazine (100 shot), with better criticial and aimed shots in eyes, he have done 3 instant kills: it was perfect like that
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Re: Restrict insta kills to players that have the better critical perk
« Reply #36 on: April 20, 2010, 09:22:11 pm »

i would like idea to have instant kill chance according to weapon. Only few weapons should have this ability who are really expensive and not really balanced like plasma rifle, bozar, XL70E3, gauss rifle, pulse rifle. Now even ghoul with 1 melee damage can instantly kill you hth wtf?
Having weapon-dependant instantkills sounds very reasonable
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Re: Restrict insta kills to players that have the better critical perk
« Reply #37 on: April 20, 2010, 10:07:08 pm »

Also the shot in the eye IRL will kill you instantly with 95% probability, and games is about imitiate reality.

IRL minigun will make forcemeat from you in 1 burst.
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Re: Restrict insta kills to players that have the better critical perk
« Reply #38 on: April 20, 2010, 11:27:48 pm »

Bullshit. Ever heard of knockouts? Also you completely forgot about weapon's range.

Knockouts are rare enough that you can't rely on them and range doesn't really help that much in pvp because most combat takes place in the 10-30 hex range due to the size of towns.
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Re: Restrict insta kills to players that have the better critical perk
« Reply #39 on: April 20, 2010, 11:32:07 pm »

Knockouts are rare enough that you can't rely on them and range doesn't really help that much in pvp because most combat takes place in the 10-30 hex range due to the size of towns.
personal experience ====> Knocks weren't rare and  snipers were usualy sniping from more than 40 hexes.
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Re: Restrict insta kills to players that have the better critical perk
« Reply #40 on: April 20, 2010, 11:42:56 pm »

Either way you can't say 13% chance to kill is op because bursters have a 50%(Or more) chance to kill and about the same range. You don't insta kill in that brief window of time and you die, it's that simple. Plus the specs to do it are way more restrictive than any other build and it's less effective. Fonline needs variety so it isn't just a minigun fest like last version.
Your idea of a sniper is a crippler support class and that isn't what snipers do.



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Re: Restrict insta kills to players that have the better critical perk
« Reply #41 on: April 20, 2010, 11:52:11 pm »

Knockouts are rare enough that you can't rely on them and range doesn't really help that much in pvp because most combat takes place in the 10-30 hex range due to the size of towns.

dude its close to 80% to kd/ko with each shot for sniper with 3x more criticals and 10 luck even without finesse, not enough?

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Re: Restrict insta kills to players that have the better critical perk
« Reply #42 on: April 21, 2010, 12:02:33 am »

Either way you can't say 13% chance to kill is op because bursters have a 50%(Or more) chance to kill and about the same range. You don't insta kill in that brief window of time and you die, it's that simple. Plus the specs to do it are way more restrictive than any other build and it's less effective. Fonline needs variety so it isn't just a minigun fest like last version.
Your idea of a sniper is a crippler support class and that isn't what snipers do.




50% chance to kill with mingiun hehe .. have you ever played bigguner ? and same range ? whua show me minigun wiht rng 50
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Re: Restrict insta kills to players that have the better critical perk
« Reply #43 on: April 21, 2010, 12:05:45 am »

As Nice_boat said in some other topic instacrits make even not-powerbuilders dangerous and thats a good thing. So for current PvP it brings more good than bad. But current PvP or combat in general is far from perfect and nothing even distantly reminding instakills should exist at later versions (when stuff is more balanced so it won't need such "solutions").

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Re: Restrict insta kills to players that have the better critical perk
« Reply #44 on: April 21, 2010, 12:10:30 am »

nah, big guns are much more expensive, and they do not have such magic as instant crits, so either instant kills should be left only on expensive and not so useful weapons as i mentioned above or lowered strongly/removed completely
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