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(report) shotguns in pvp-useless
Solar:
Or to look at it another way, Shotguns are useful without many other traits.
zato1:
uh what the hell are you on about? pre-wipe a pancor burst build in just ma mk2 could easily take down a 250 hp character. the range isnt even that bad. can he stand toe-to-toe with a minigun character and win? of course not, but thats not what SG burst is about.
now the pancor is buffed, i've personally used it myself, its very potent and shotgun shells are not awesome but not terrible either.
Bulldog:
Well then , Solar and zato1, I doubt that this new "awesome" feature will somehow make pancors useful and popular. I haven't met a shot-gunner after the wipe. (only 2 before the wipe btw) Is this your idea of variety of builds in the wastes?
Solar:
Well, depends if we're balancing by anecdote or not.
zato1:
i don't understand the problem. if you are 2h sg burster you are not LIMITED to the shotgun if you feel it is not a good weapon. you have the option of the assault rifle, which is kickass, and the FN FAL which is truly exceptional for bursting if you manage to find enough ammo for it. i mean really? the shotgun is a close range weapon with a powerful burst. the limitation of the weapon is obvious... range.
if you're a sg burster and you bring a shotgun to somewhere like... reno, yeah unless you can get up in someones face on the grids you are gonna get shot down. this is why you don't limit yourself to one weapon because you think its "cool"... the limitation of the shotgun is a natural limiter in its power... think to real life, shotguns are the most powerful anti-infantry weapons made besides large caliber weapons. we are consistently seeking to develop new futuristic ways to overcome the natural deficiency of shotguns.
the only thing i agree with that has been stated earlier, is that the shotgun should knock BACK on a critical hit only, burst or not, like a rocket launcher or grenade. this would make shotguns very viable as a "use all the time" weapon instead of how it is now... "use it if you'll be in close quarters only" and will hopefully give some viability to "melee" gun users.
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