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(report) shotguns in pvp-useless
Solar:
--- Quote from: Roachor on June 17, 2010, 10:40:49 AM ---where did you get that miniguns are getting nerfed? They don't have piercing.
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AP ammo does.
Its actually a reasonably small nerf to some weapons vs Metal Armours and CA II/BA. It also makes toughness a bit more worthwhile vs those weapons too.
Avenger will still be the #1 DPS dealer, just not by as much.
Bulldog:
My idea actually is that the more benefits (for example range, damage, price, ammo, /DT, -DR, *DM) one weapon has, the more minuses it should have, like for example, if a weapon has shitty range, it should be godly in close combat, a weapon with a range of 50 should be less powerful and so on, the good part about fallout is that each weapon has many variable characteristics, and this makes balancing more fun and opens a wide variety of choice. Avenger with it's range, ammo and lethality is absolute imba.
Crazy:
--- Quote from: Bulldog on June 17, 2010, 01:40:36 PM ---My idea actually is that the more benefits (for example range, damage, price, ammo, /DT, -DR, *DM) one weapon has, the more minuses it should have, like for example, if a weapon has shitty range, it should be godly in close combat, a weapon with a range of 50 should be less powerful and so on, the good part about fallout is that each weapon has many variable characteristics, and this makes balancing more fun and opens a wide variety of choice. Avenger with it's range, ammo and lethality is absolute imba.
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Lol... Avenger ammo imba? Man, it's the MOST expansive weapon to use (if we forget Gatling), expansive to craft too, range already nerfed, lethality about to be nerfed too. No avenger stand a chance against a sniper at max range, and no sniper stand a chance against an avenger at his range. I call it balanced. Just learn some tactics, and you will die less often by avenger burst.
Well anyway I can't say if it gonna be a good nerf or not, but anyway, I will have to change my build... ;p
Roachor:
--- Quote from: Solar on June 17, 2010, 01:03:09 PM ---AP ammo does.
Its actually a reasonably small nerf to some weapons vs Metal Armours and CA II/BA. It also makes toughness a bit more worthwhile vs those weapons too.
Avenger will still be the #1 DPS dealer, just not by as much.
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You should clarify as piercing is a weapon perk not an attribute of ap ammo.
Could you elaborate on dt/3? dt = ? damage taken? if you nerf it down to 1/3 from 2/3 ap rounds will do nothing, the minigun is only useful at like 1 hex against hard targets as it is.
Solar:
AP ammo gives the weapon piercing. Piercing currently means that DT is divided by 5. Soon DT will be divided by 3 for this instead.
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