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(report) shotguns in pvp-useless
Bulldog:
--- Quote from: Roachor on June 17, 2010, 07:46:38 PM ---You should clarify as piercing is a weapon perk not an attribute of ap ammo.
Could you elaborate on dt/3? dt = ? damage taken? if you nerf it down to 1/3 from 2/3 ap rounds will do nothing, the minigun is only useful at like 1 hex against hard targets as it is.
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as far as I know DT is damage threshold, and an AP ammo burst at blank point is effective even against addicts with insane DR, take 2-3 to kill one (at least it did before, when I tested it)
Bulldog:
--- Quote from: Crazy on June 17, 2010, 03:48:40 PM ---Lol... Avenger ammo imba? Man, it's the MOST expansive weapon to use (if we forget Gatling), expansive to craft too, range already nerfed, lethality about to be nerfed too. No avenger stand a chance against a sniper at max range, and no sniper stand a chance against an avenger at his range. I call it balanced. Just learn some tactics, and you will die less often by avenger burst.
Well anyway I can't say if it gonna be a good nerf or not, but anyway, I will have to change my build... ;p
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I know it's expensive but it's a must for a good BG, if you made the price 10 times higher and craft 20 times, people would still use it... " No avenger stands a chance against a sniper at max range" you say? Before telling me to learn some tactics, get some brains. Not only snipers are not 1 shot killers all day long, but also 15 hex is not that much if you know what I mean, but actually I don't want to waste any time trying to explain you anything. You just really pissed me off, and yeah, I've tried more than 7 BG avenger builds during 3rd beta test.
Roachor:
--- Quote from: Bulldog on June 17, 2010, 11:17:44 PM ---I know it's expensive but it's a must for a good BG, if you made the price 10 times higher and craft 20 times, people would still use it... " No avenger stands a chance against a sniper at max range" you say? Before telling me to learn some tactics, get some brains. Not only snipers are not 1 shot killers all day long, but also 15 hex is not that much if you know what I mean, but actually I don't want to waste any time trying to explain you anything. You just really pissed me off, and yeah, I've tried more than 7 BG avenger builds during 3rd beta test.
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Well you only need one arm cripple to render a bg char useless as they have no one handed weapons, if they are in rt maybe 2 arm cripples but in tb they are screwed.
Bulldog:
--- Quote from: Roachor on June 18, 2010, 02:00:50 AM ---
Well you only need one arm cripple to render a bg char useless as they have no one handed weapons, if they are in rt maybe 2 arm cripples but in tb they are screwed.
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From my personal experience, people seem seldom to aim for the arms, although I remember one funny bluesuit that took revenge over me, he used all the mauser ammo he got from one of the reno quests to completely cripple me, he crippled me totally and didn't let me to escape the map border untill he ran out of ammo. This took place in the times when the cripple chance was not nerfed as it is now.
Solar:
--- Quote from: Bulldog on June 18, 2010, 01:09:03 PM ---From my personal experience, people seem seldom to aim for the arms, although I remember one funny bluesuit that took revenge over me, he used all the mauser ammo he got from one of the reno quests to completely cripple me, he crippled me totally and didn't let me to escape the map border untill he ran out of ammo. This took place in the times when the cripple chance was not nerfed as it is now.
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Cripple chance (for arms) is currently the highest its ever been.
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