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(report) shotguns in pvp-useless

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Bulldog:

--- Quote from: Solar on June 14, 2010, 11:06:04 PM ---Me too, Pancor is more fun. Though when I did it wasn't so good. Still, 1 anecdote doth not balance make.

Talking about current perks and drugs when talking about final balance is meaningless because they are bound to change.



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Well then, how much time do you need to solve such a vital problem as a problem of only about 4 weapons being dominating in pvp? You've fixed many weapons, although I'm not aware of any changes that would have solved the problem of variety of balanced weapons and as a result-effective pvp builds.

Solar:
From what I saw on the TC cbt:

1. Avenger (and Minigun)
2. LSW
3. Laser Rifle (and Extended)
4. Sniper Rifle
5. Plasma Rifle
6. Plasma Grenades

I've seen more Assault Rifles beginning to be used in TC/Random PK too. Seen p90c's in there.

I assume at some point they will realise Jackhammers are good and begin to use these, where I asked them why they didn't use them they said psycho made them weak, which made no sense ;)

Of course at some point Piercing will go to DT/3 and thereby nerf some weapons vs some armours a little too.

An continued increase for AR, p90c and Jackhammers would make it nearly so at least the top gun in each sub class was used, probably outside of pistols.

Bulldog:

--- Quote from: Solar on June 15, 2010, 01:22:59 PM ---From what I saw on the TC cbt:

1. Avenger (and Minigun)
2. LSW
3. Laser Rifle (and Extended)
4. Sniper Rifle
5. Plasma Rifle
6. Plasma Grenades

I've seen more Assault Rifles beginning to be used in TC/Random PK too. Seen p90c's in there.

I assume at some point they will realise Jackhammers are good and begin to use these, where I asked them why they didn't use them they said psycho made them weak, which made no sense ;)

Of course at some point Piercing will go to DT/3 and thereby nerf some weapons vs some armours a little too.

An continued increase for AR, p90c and Jackhammers would make it nearly so at least the top gun in each sub class was used, probably outside of pistols.

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This is just what I wanted to hear, if you'd specify the date or at least a time period when this changes occur that would be very nice of you.

Solar:
Hm, I forgot the RL from that list, I notice. Not too bad a list really, I think perk/drug rework could encourage the use of some other weapons too.

DT/3 should arrive before too long. I wanted to convince Atom of it before the wipe, but with everything that needed doing for the crafting I forgot to. Finally remembered to do it recently.

Crazy:

--- Quote from: Solar on June 16, 2010, 01:13:26 PM ---Hm, I forgot the RL from that list, I notice. Not too bad a list really, I think perk/drug rework could encourage the use of some other weapons too.

DT/3 should arrive before too long. I wanted to convince Atom of it before the wipe, but with everything that needed doing for the crafting I forgot to. Finally remembered to do it recently.

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Well, minigun gonna have again a huge nerf...

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