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[Onion]

I think this is lost battle. NCR noobs-no lifers will always win because they will be crying when they got killed in mine by 21st level boosted PvP char.
It doesn't matter. I'm going to mining site with my char and I will kill everyone who I don't know so they can have reason to cry like: I got killed in mining site! Devs do something with this or I will stop playing! Erase all ammo and guns! I want harmless and peacefull game without player killers!

We can say the same thing about you: OMG exping PVP is boring, give q for CH1 chars, moar xp for me, make craftig rockets easier etc. etc.

I know that more PvE events should be added. But they will be later. You know the game and exp system and you know that exping this pvp char will be hard. Just deal with it and wait for some content update.

BTW: Many of Sius idea's are right, but please stop  moaning. It's boring like exping pvp char to 21lvl :/

[Sius]

Do you know irony man? I don't like FOnline 2238 at this moment, I'm playing because I hope thet some change will come.

Imho there is significant part of community that plays 2238 because of love to Fallout universum. If it was build on something else than Fallout we could expect playerbase to be absolutely different. Right now I don't enjoy playing either but I will do everything I can to change that fact. And if developers will be stubborn bean counters then I guess its really best just to wait until they add game content and maybe then return to FOnline.

[Wichura]

I think this is lost battle. NCR noobs-no lifers will always win because they will be crying when they got killed in mine by 21st level boosted PvP char.

NCR noobs aren't the same with no-lifers. First ones stay at NCR and cry because they've just lost their shovel, second ones grind as hell, so they can get "main goal", which is obviously 21 level, in couple days. None of these two kinds cries in this topic, by the way :>

I don't know what is with those "dangerous" mines up north. It is almost impossible to meet someone there, maybe I'm choosing wrong hours for chit-chatting during digging.

[Surf]

Imho there is significant part of community that plays 2238 because of love to Fallout universum. If it was build on something else than Fallout we could expect playerbase to be absolutely different. Right now I don't enjoy playing either but I will do everything I can to change that fact. And if developers will be stubborn bean counters then I guess its really best just to wait until they add game content and maybe then return to FOnline.

Just (since I like silly numbers :p) compare the NMA crowd with the FOnline crowd. I've played a few hours with a few well known users/admins from NMA till they found it pretty shitty what has become to fallout. I could understand them, but I also coan understand that fonline is simply fun. So its not like you said that "true fallout fans" are taking place of this game, right now I only know (I'd count you in) 50 players from 500 who care about fallout AT ALL.

And that is the main issue why players left. It's just not the fallout we used to play.

But I can understand that a "Das Oedland ist harrrrrrrrsch!!!" ( ) isnt appealing to everyone, even if one likes FO1/2. Its just a completely different experience.

[Hololasima]

We can say the same thing about you: OMG exping PVP is boring, give q for CH1 chars, moar xp for me, make craftig rockets easier etc. etc.

I know that more PvE events should be added. But they will be later. You know the game and exp system and you know that exping this pvp char will be hard. Just deal with it and wait for some content update.

BTW: Many of Sius idea's are right, but please stop  moaning. It's boring like exping pvp char to 21lvl :/

For you is PvP booring, for us PvR is booring. We need balance beetwen this things. But right now we have destroy game for PvPers and crafters(PvE,people who have days and days to spend in game) have eden.

[Onion]

For you is PvP booring, for us PvR is booring. We need balance beetwen this things. But right now we have destroy game for PvPers and crafters(PvE,people who have days and days to spend in game) have eden.

I understand it, but sadly there' in only one option for us: waiting for new content/change (ane post suggestion, but many of us already done this in this topic )

[Surf]

For you is PvP booring, for us PvR is booring. We need balance beetwen this things. But right now we have destroy game for PvPers and crafters(PvE,people who have days and days to spend in game) have eden.

You're always saying PvP "for us" (as you like to call "us" NCR noobs) is boring, but you don't know all of the chars. I can only speak for me, I am no hardcore PK,PvP nor crafter, I just want to test every aspect the game has. I would ALSO like to test TC out for the first time, but I didnt find a proper gang since now.

So really, I understand that you find it sometimes boring at the moment, its really not a surprise. But please, you sound like a man one can talk the good talk with, not everyone who is staying in ncr is just staying the whole day there. Actually, I hate the ncr...

[bikkebakke]

Do you know irony man? I don't like FOnline 2238 at this moment, I'm playing because I hope thet some change will come.

not saying that you are wrong, I'm not playing at all atm actually, the constant lags/rollbacks are a small part of that but the biggest reason for me to not play atm is the slow xp gain and ammo drawback. So atm I'm waiting for changes as you are.

(irony man, i like that )

[Solar]

The drawback of getting ammo faster than before the wipe in the majority of cases and virtually the same for almost all the rest? 

[Sephiroth-sama]

Just (since I like silly numbers :p) compare the NMA crowd with the FOnline crowd. I've played a few hours with a few well known users/admins from NMA till they found it pretty shitty what has become to fallout. I could understand them, but I also coan understand that fonline is simply fun. So its not like you said that "true fallout fans" are taking place of this game, right now I only know (I'd count you in) 50 players from 500 who care about fallout AT ALL.

And that is the main issue why players left. It's just not the fallout we used to play.

But I can understand that a "Das Oedland ist harrrrrrrrsch!!!" ( ) isnt appealing to everyone, even if one likes FO1/2. Its just a completely different experience.

Are you serious? I thought everyone here didn't leave because they DID care about the fallout universe at all.
Take me, for example. I just didn't leave this game despite it's shitty mechanics, bugs and lags, because I DO care about fallout universe, and that's what kept me playing. Most likely the roleplay and gameplay of fallout, which isn't multiplayer centered AT ALL. I would rather just have it co-op so I could play fallout's standard storyline with friends, but that isn't the case.

[Drakonis]

Are you serious? I thought everyone here didn't leave because they DID care about the fallout universe at all.
Take me, for example. I just didn't leave this game despite it's shitty mechanics, bugs and lags, because I DO care about fallout universe, and that's what kept me playing. Most likely the roleplay and gameplay of fallout, which isn't multiplayer centered AT ALL. I would rather just have it co-op so I could play fallout's standard storyline with friends, but that isn't the case.

I agree with this poster. I stayed only because I love fallout(not 2238- it's not fallout for me really)

[Attero]

i wanna yet add that rhere is no MMO that would hande things like in fallout - I mean pistols miniguns rockets sniping armors but no galactic flying and shit .

[Sius]

i wanna yet add that rhere is no MMO that would hande things like in fallout - I mean pistols miniguns rockets sniping armors but no galactic flying and shit .

Well sci-fi theme is not favorite in MMO genre. Anyway it does not mean that its not possible to handle such features. It is but not the way FOnline does it. Problem with FOnline is that it takes its own path and just considering regular MMO mechanics to be applied here is taken like blaspheming by some. Sure everything can be done even the way FOnline does it but I'm having this feeling that developers don't have any game concept and they simply add/repair features one by one as they see fit but they don't see the game from bigger picture.

[Lexx]

Well, I just can say one thing: If people don't like FOnline: 2238, they don't have to stay for the shake of it. Make a design document of a more fallouty MMO, send it to cvet and if he likes it, you get the SDK. That's how it works. You (the one who doesn't like it) will have less stress with 2238, we will have less stress with people who don't like 2238 and have to tell it all the time and in the end, all are happy.

Beside this, my latest information are, that the server and client files will be released around summer. So... if someone wants to start then, he can start to prepare already.

[bikkebakke]

I agree with this poster. I stayed only because I love fallout(not 2238- it's not fallout for me really)

play fallout then if you love fallout. Playe fonline if you like fonline.