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How much do you enjoy playing FOnline?
Sephiroth-sama:
--- Quote from: Sius on April 02, 2010, 05:04:59 pm ---1st of all mmo has no ending. Its about endgame activities and leveling up should be just a small part of a fun that awaits at the max lvl. But FOnline is beta and as such it lacks content on both leveling and endgame part of the game. I agree that leveling should be slow and step by step but not when there is nothing to do while you level up. You all think that we are whiners but you see it just from your point of the view and you refuse to imagine yourselves in our position. When I suggest something then I always try to be as much objective as I can but you are not even trying to do that.
Two main sources of exp are absolutely not accessible for PvP chars. You see they can't craft and they can't do quests because somewhere at season 2 when floater/centaur killing was like rocket lvling someone suggested that quest should be CH based so powerbuild would have disadvantage. Back then it was not a real deal since there were like 5 quests and you didn't get much reward from them. But now they matter and we are completely cut from them. Its like we would not allow crafters to use guns until they take weapon handling perk or better criticals. Absolute nonsense that only limit game content for certain group of players. So we are left with hunting NPCs and killing them over and over again until we reach max lvl. Thats long and boring run and I'm asking WHY ON EARTH do we have to spend so much time ingame repeating boring stuff when we could be doing something we enjoy without spending 24/7 ingame just to reach it?
Its beta and there is missing content so why do you make gap between players and content (competitive PvP and TC) bigger with every patch and you don't fill up empty space with anything else we could do while we level up. Thats what changed significantly about FOnline and thats what making current season the most boring season I played. Before you just registered your char, stayed ingame for 1/2 hours a day and you could enjoy gang wars in one week. Now its more like you get ingame, you work for 5 hours just to have enough bullets to level up next 4 levels and then you go hunting some stalkers or something with few people. Its not whining, its simple statement that you made this game boring for many people and you did not provide anything how to enjoy that enormous time we have to spend ingame to reach our goals and finally get some fun out of the game. Thats what this is about! >:(
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You're not wrong, although not right. If this CH restriction didn't exist, CH would just have no meaning. Your character is the same thing apparently, CH isn't even an attribute in MMOs, but since this is a Fallout mod then it were already there and mods decided to put it into use, then it MUST have some use. What would be the point of having a completely useless atribute? If they take this restriction off, they should just take the atribute completely, which I disagree.
CH 3 isn't so bad anyway. Yeah, 2 points are important, but they won't be groundbreaking in any build.
@RavenousRat
That be me. I said that leveling plays little part on MMOs.
Sius:
--- Quote from: Wichura on April 02, 2010, 05:11:56 pm ---I don't get it - you cannot make PvP below 21 level? Why?
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Maybe because builds are pretty much useless until certain level is reached? Also you don't stand a chance against higher lvl guys. So only at 21 lvl chances are the same and the real competitive PvP can begin. Sure there are even low level skirmishes but they can never be as fun as real high lvl battle.
--- Quote from: Sephiroth-sama on April 02, 2010, 05:14:45 pm ---You're not wrong, although not right. If this CH restriction didn't exist, CH would just have no meaning. Your character is the same thing apparently, CH isn't even an attribute in MMOs, but since this is a Fallout mod then it were already there and mods decided to put it into use, then it MUST have some use. What would be the point of having a completely useless atribute? If they take this restriction off, they should just take the atribute completely, which I disagree.
CH 3 isn't so bad anyway. Yeah, 2 points are important, but they won't be groundbreaking in any build.
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I've always thought its better to gain bonuses for being better than restrict and limit for being worse.
Sephiroth-sama:
--- Quote from: Sius on April 02, 2010, 05:22:53 pm ---Maybe because builds are pretty much useless until certain level is reached? Also you don't stand a chance against higher lvl guys. So only at 21 lvl chances are the same and the real competitive PvP can begin. Sure there are even low level skirmishes but they can never be as fun as real high lvl battle.
I've always thought its better to gain bonuses for being better than restrict and limit for being worse.
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Those bonuses are impossible.
Not for fallout, on fallout they are good enough, but for a MMO they are impossible. What would you get? More quests? More NPCs? Few care for NPCs anyway. The most thing you could care is some brahmins or so, but you're always better on your own. Discounts don't count.
What I mean is that there are possible bonuses, but they would be little bonuses if compared on what those points could do. Plus, if you're using CH 1, you're COMPLETELY disregarding this atribute, it's just unfair you can do anything that anyone with little charisma can. CH 1 is the extreme.
Wichura:
--- Quote from: Sius on April 02, 2010, 05:22:53 pm ---Maybe because builds are pretty much useless until certain level is reached? Also you don't stand a chance against higher lvl guys.
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I always thought that advantage in battle depends on skill, scouting and knowledge about your enemy, not HP. Oh stupid me.
Sephiroth-sama:
--- Quote from: Wichura on April 02, 2010, 05:32:05 pm ---I always thought that advantage in battle depends on skill, scouting and knowledge about your enemy, not HP. Oh stupid me.
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Still, level do play a big part.
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