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How much do you enjoy playing FOnline?
Sephiroth-sama:
--- Quote from: RavenousRat on April 02, 2010, 04:40:43 pm ---Exactly. Getting 21st level must be something really really hard. Because if you got max. of something, that means you ended this game, so everyone start to create alts, so they'll have alot 21st lvled alts. If you want to get 21st level, you must focus on your the only character and (when it'll be in non-beta stage) get your 21st level not in month, or even faster, you must get it in like a year or something. Because you must always have something to achieve, getting 21st level = you don't have anything to achieve.
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Lol, that's the dumbest thing I ever heard from you.
So the game is all about leveling? Of course not. Leveling plays little part on every fun game. Offline games are for the story, but online games shouldn't be about leveling. There must be late-game content that you can only do exactly when you're level capped, so you just get max level to do those things (I could use as an example here TC, Gangs and Factions, since there are not instanced dungeons or something, and quests are mostly for leveling or getting titles).
Wichura:
--- Quote from: LeMark on April 02, 2010, 04:22:39 pm ---so play like you want and stop pissing me off by trying to show us YOUR way!
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Funny, exactly the same thing I could say to all these "OMFG i cant play meh game cuz im too lazy/lame/stupid/it's much harder to achieve 21 hax0r lvl in one day DO SOMETHGIN !!!111oneone". Actually it is not funny, it is terrifying - how experienced and game-educated people can behave when they can loose with bunch of no-lifers. Guess what - you will always loose with no-lifer, because he spends much more time playing than regular player having work, school, family and so on. I know exactly what I'm talking about, my char is on 7th level since Tuesday, because I had to work and earn real money instead of playing some computer game and earning virtual caps.
I don't know if any of "so much waiting" guys tried to dig something without using bot - it is really much more faster now. And yeah, you have to risk to get better materials and stuff, and you can't left bot with brahmin at Gecko's mine. Same rules for everyone - what is wrong with that?
This wipe brought some major changes and suddenly there is 500-600 players at rush hours, before there was 300-400. All these are alts/bots?
"My PvP char has 1 CH and he can't do quests" - so what? It was your choice to make supah-powah-snipah with awesome combat skill, but ugly as ghoul and completely retarded while wandering through Wastes (who the hell needs Outdoorsman anyway?). Charisma doesn't mean shit in Fallout? Try to play 1 CH char in F1/F2 and share this amazing experience. My char has 1 LK, he is constantly falling on the ground in combat because of this - but no-one ordered me to do this char, moreover some friends told me I'm making a big mistake.
I'm not sure if dividing players for "northern-pvp only" and "southern-ncr bin only" is properly. I know some, you could say, "northern butchers" who had a lot of serious fun from RP-like noobish stuff, and also some "ncr-bin lovers" who shoots before asking questions. It is not black and white as you want to see it.
Sius:
--- Quote from: RavenousRat on April 02, 2010, 04:40:43 pm ---Exactly. Getting 21st level must be something really really hard. Because if you got max. of something, that means you ended this game, so everyone start to create alts, so they'll have alot 21st lvled alts. If you want to get 21st level, you must focus on your the only character and (when it'll be in non-beta stage) get your 21st level not in month, or even faster, you must get it in like a year or something. Because you must always have something to achieve, getting 21st level = you don't have anything to achieve.
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1st of all mmo has no ending. Its about endgame activities and leveling up should be just a small part of a fun that awaits at the max lvl. But FOnline is beta and as such it lacks content on both leveling and endgame part of the game. I agree that leveling should be slow and step by step but not when there is nothing to do while you level up. You all think that we are whiners but you see it just from your point of the view and you refuse to imagine yourselves in our position. When I suggest something then I always try to be as much objective as I can but you are not even trying to do that.
Two main sources of exp are absolutely not accessible for PvP chars. You see they can't craft and they can't do quests because somewhere at season 2 when floater/centaur killing was like rocket lvling someone suggested that quest should be CH based so powerbuild would have disadvantage. Back then it was not a real deal since there were like 5 quests and you didn't get much reward from them. But now they matter and we are completely cut from them. Its like we would not allow crafters to use guns until they take weapon handling perk or better criticals. Absolute nonsense that only limit game content for certain group of players. So we are left with hunting NPCs and killing them over and over again until we reach max lvl. Thats long and boring run and I'm asking WHY ON EARTH do we have to spend so much time ingame repeating boring stuff when we could be doing something we enjoy without spending 24/7 ingame just to reach it?
Its beta and there is missing content so why do you make gap between players and content (competitive PvP and TC) bigger with every patch and you don't fill up empty space with anything else we could do while we level up. Thats what changed significantly about FOnline and thats what making current season the most boring season I played. Before you just registered your char, stayed ingame for 1/2 hours a day and you could enjoy gang wars in one week. Now its more like you get ingame, you work for 5 hours just to have enough bullets to level up next 4 levels and then you go hunting some stalkers or something with few people. Its not whining, its simple statement that you made this game boring for many people and you did not provide anything how to enjoy that enormous time we have to spend ingame to reach our goals and finally get some fun out of the game. Thats what this is about! >:(
--- Quote ---"My PvP char has 1 CH and he can't do quests" - so what? It was your choice to make supah-powah-snipah with awesome combat skill, but ugly as ghoul and completely retarded while wandering through Wastes (who the hell needs Outdoorsman anyway?). Charisma doesn't mean shit in Fallout? Try to play 1 CH char in F1/F2 and share this amazing experience. My char has 1 LK, he is constantly falling on the ground in combat because of this - but no-one ordered me to do this char, moreover some friends told me I'm making a big mistake.
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And here you are completely wrong my friend. If we spend some points in charisma we get weakened by it. We have to reduce that weakening with drugs or just settle with that we will have simply average and no longer PvP build. But here is the problem: some guys don't care about it and they still make 1ch char and thanks to that they will own our asses. So as answer to their build we have to create new chars and fight their way so we can compete with them. Thats simple and natural escalation that should never be discriminated. Take example from almost every other mmo that exists out there. If you want to PvP they you will play the game differently than PvE guy but you can't just say because you are different and you enjoy something else you will have to suffer or change your preferences and start as "average" guy. Game should support both PvE and PvP in its own way and players should be allowed to do what they enjoy and not forced to work to get their entertainment.
Wichura:
--- Quote from: Sius on April 02, 2010, 05:04:59 pm ---Its not whining, its simple statement that you made this game boring for many people and you did not provide anything how to enjoy that enormous time we have to spend ingame to reach our goals and finally get some fun out of the game. Thats what this is about! >:(
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I don't get it - you cannot make PvP below 21 level? Why?
RavenousRat:
--- Quote from: Wichura on April 02, 2010, 05:11:56 pm ---I don't get it - you cannot make PvP below 21 level? Why?
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Because his character build is "accounted" (poor english, sorry) on 21st level. ;p
And he saying something about "leveling isn't the main in mmorpgs", or it's not him?
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