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[GroeneAppel]

So, the formula for the amount of merc/slave followers is Charisma -1/2.
This means that you can carry 4 slavers at 9 charisma. However there is a perk called Magnetic Personality which gives you an extra slot for a merc/slave/player.
This means that with 9 charisma and the Magnetic Personality perk you can carry a stunning total of 5 mercs/slaves. However here comes the problem.
Somoene with 10 charisma cannot take the Magnetic Personality, this means that he will be stuck at 4 slaves/mercs. This means that it is actually more benefitial to take 9 charisma instead of 10, while 10 IS supposed to be better. This is something that should be fixed.

I have 2 possible suggestions for this:

1. Give people with 10 charisma the ability to take the Magnetic Personality perk.

2. Increase the amount of merc/slave followers for people with 10 charisma to 5.

[Badger]

Man makes a good point.

Mercs are still terrible, though.

[vedaras]

i agree with author :>

[Roachor]

9 cha gives you 3 mercs not 5. The only way to get 5 mercs is if you take magnetic personality at 9 cha then take gain charisma. Merc aren't terrible by any stretch, I'd rather have 4 mercs than 4 players with me. Hell you don't even have to worry about gridcampers as you shoot just as fast or faster when entering towns.

[GroeneAppel]

9 cha gives you 3 mercs not 5. The only way to get 5 mercs is if you take magnetic personality at 9 cha then take gain charisma. Merc aren't terrible by any stretch, I'd rather have 4 mercs than 4 players with me. Hell you don't even have to worry about gridcampers as you shoot just as fast or faster when entering towns.

Are you sure about that? The current formula for merc followers is Charisma -1/2. This means that with 9 charisma the amount of followers will be:
9-1 = 8/2 = 4. With the Magnetic Personality perk this becomes 5.

[Solar]

Yes, Ch 10 should have access to MP. Bit of an oversight that they don't.

[Roachor]

Are you sure about that? The current formula for merc followers is Charisma -1/2. This means that with 9 charisma the amount of followers will be:
9-1 = 8/2 = 4. With the Magnetic Personality perk this becomes 5.

My bad, i had the formula reversed.

[vedaras]

so will admins you do anything about this problem? It should be an easy fix and 2 possible solutions already suggested, but time passes and nothing is being done :/

[JohnyT]

hey, do you need Ch for anything else ?

[Spoonman]

hey, do you need Ch for anything else ?

Some quests require 4 or 7 ch.  I think you need 3 just to talk to npcs though.

[RavenousRat]

Some quests require 4 or 7 ch.  I think you need 3 just to talk to npcs though.

And x2 mentats to get 7 CH for all quests.

But really I only once used x2 mentats (after wipe) to get max. effect from Mordino family quest.

[vedaras]

so, where are devs ?

[Solar]

Already have a proposed Ch-limit change internally, but its waiting for a later date to be done.

[Badger]

How about F2 style followers? Ones you don't have to pay for/that level up?

[vedaras]

Already have a proposed Ch-limit change internally, but its waiting for a later date to be done.

but here its a quick fix suggested and it requires very little effort in developing :>