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[BaffoBeardson]

Oh, stop whining!

The present crafting system is the best implemented so far (ever since the introduction of the whole gathering/crafting cooldown thingy).

Before cooldowns one crafter with the resources of a player faction could make loads of end tier weapons and armors in a very short time (before wipe, out of boredom, i made 30 of each mk2 armor (combat jakets, leather armors and metal armors) with stuff lying around the base in about 2 hours) and that was insane and utterly unrealistic.

This system limits a lvl 3 armorer to max 2 brotherhood armors, or 6-8 metal mk2, or 20-24 leather mk2 per day. It limits the ammount of finished items you can make without forcing you to waste time grinding resources (like the previous systems of longer gathering CD did).

It's even better if you play with other people, since you take 10-15 minutes of combined gathering, craft 2-300 ammo each (get crafting cooldown up to 59 minutes) and then make some high lvl weapon (crafting cooldown jumps up to 3+ hours) and then you all go:'Ok, that's the crafting done for next 4 hours, lets go slaving/questing/trading/pvping...!'
And it's off your mind for that time; you can go gather some more resources for your next big crafting session, go play PvE or PvP, or simply log off for the time being.

Thats GREAT!!!

If you're manic about it you can still craft like a factory (2 brotherhood armors a day means 14 per week, just by one character). Of course alter users can multiply that ammount by a lot, but between gathering cooldowns and relog cooldowns they will have to spend entire days just gathering and crafting and that slightly balances/discourages this practice (it doesn't stop them, but at least they're annoyed).

[Wire]

Thats GREAT!!!

Let me say one thing.
If you have loads of alts with lvl3 profession it will be much faster just to relog, make 1 CA, then relog, update it, relog to other char, make weapon, relog to other, make some ammo, and etc. You think its better than resources grinding?
Slap ypuself already. It needs other way to be resolved.

[Lexx]

Just don't use alts for this.

[Wire]

Just don't use alts for this.

Lexx, come on, your not kid, you know that not everyoone will be good guys

[Bartosz]

Actually, all the cooldowns have been upped by 5-20 minutes (and that's only ammo, some armors go up to 5 hours).

How so? Because if they were upped, and it hasn't been noted in changelog, isn't that effectively bug which should be reported instead of using it as another argument in that awkward discussion?

[Solar]

Lexx, come on, your not kid, you know that not everyoone will be good guys

It should not be an issue when the economy is updated

And all cooldowns should now be equal to the old gathering time that was there originally, just lumped together at the end of an item.

[Iceforce]

Well, they are not. For example, it took around 18 min to craft 100 5mm AP, while now it takes around 28 min...

100 5mm AP required:
1 Metal part - 4.8 min (12min cd for 5 ore - 2.4 min per ore)
1 Junk - 1.5 min (6 min cd for 4 junk - 1.5 min per junk)
5 Gunpowder - 12 min
Total: 18.3 min...

But in my opinion current crafting cd-s are fine

[Surf]

I was looking for the list of items and which materials they need to craft - the list was in a seperate thread on nma but I can't find it. :/ So I was asking here - does anyone have this list? I don't wanted to make a new thread so I'm asking here.

[lisac2k]

http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki

[Surf]

http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki

Okay, stupid me, I had to know this.
Thank you, anyway!

EDIT: Unfortunately, the crafting list is empty. ( http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/index.php?title=Crafting )
Need to search further.

EDIT2: Thanks to you, Lexx!

[Lexx]

Crafting tables are in the item pages.

Example.

[Iceforce]

Use this link http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/index.php?title=Category:Craftable_Items

[Resp]

http://www.fallout-3.com/wiki/Crafting
this realy fine wiki

[Izual]

That is, unfortunately, in French =)

[Resp]

yes, but English  can make easy