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An Idea for The Devs
Nice_Boat:
--- Quote from: JovankaB on May 04, 2013, 04:40:39 pm ---I don't think I ever wrote about a place for yes-sayers. I meant a board for people who instead
of indulging in personal attacks (like you) give their feedback about features which are getting
implemented or planned by criticizing them in a polite, and more importantly - rational manner.
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Wait, so pointing out that you deliberately engaged in trolling and now you're pushing to implement more or less the same thing I suggested is suddenly irrational and personal? Actually, I'd like you to point out a single instance of me posting a personal attack without a clearly defined and game-related line of argumentation to back it up. I've stated numerous times that whenever I criticize a devteam member, I criticize him or her as a dev, not as a human being. You're clearly unable to understand the difference here. What's more, you fail to live up to the standards you're talking about and it's actually pretty easy to provide examples of such behaviour on your part, so not only do you come off as being irrational, but also your posts sound downright hypocritical. You're talking about harsh moderation standards, yet you do nothing to keep your own responses civilized... and you have the audacity to attack people laughing at that. How low can you get?
When it comes to discussing game-related stuff, your posts are also incredibly biased. I mean you say that popular elections are unethical because the community might turn out being misrepresented while simultaneously implying that your arbitrary decisions would be somehow better in this regard. Care to explain how exactly would that work? Because, you know, the general idea of elections is all about having a proportional representation of each and every element of the playerbase, in the end how well that goal is achieved depends purely on the voting mechanics.
But then again who the hell cares about what people really think if we have Jovanka calling the shots? ;D
Lexx:
--- Quote ---Actually, I'd like you to point out a single instance of me posting a personal attack without a clearly defined and game-related line of argumentation to back it up.
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This is the problem I mentioned earlier in this thread. A few people are able to hide their sniping in "polite" looking posts, which makes it hard for us to issue warnings / bans without looking like a dictatorship.
Nice_Boat:
--- Quote from: Lexx on May 04, 2013, 05:38:39 pm ---This is the problem I mentioned earlier in this thread. A few people are able to hide their sniping in "polite" looking posts, which makes it hard for us to issue warnings / bans without looking like a dictatorship.
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Are you sure you aren't mistaking being polite for approving of your actions or even some of you being on the devteam in general? Besides, there were numerous instances of devteam members being downright rude in their posts, what are you planning to do about that? Obviously you can ban anyone you want, but I think even some of those 20-odd regulars left might join the "sniping" crowd if that were to happen... and it'd be rather heartbreaking to ban the last few remaining supporters of your game, don't you think?
Crovax:
The fact that some devs are responding in this thread and having a conversation with players seems like an improvement. Now if we can all just get over ourselves (devs, players, and even myself included) we can maybe get something good going.
Starner:
--- Quote from: Nice_Boat on May 04, 2013, 05:58:02 pm ---Are you sure you aren't mistaking being polite for approving of your actions or even some of you being on the devteam in general? Besides, there were numerous instances of devteam members being downright rude in their posts, what are you planning to do about that? Obviously you can ban anyone you want, but I think even some of those 20-odd regulars left might join the "sniping" crowd if that were to happen... and it'd be rather heartbreaking to ban the last few remaining supporters of your game, don't you think?
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Boat please stop, every post from you the past few days have been Jovan this and devs that. It's not helping anything and is making you look bad. As for the original point of this thread Lexx seems to have answered it. Now we just need it to happen.
--- Quote from: Lexx on May 04, 2013, 03:38:53 pm ---Absolutely true. I would hammer the ban button like nobody else, but sadly many peeps are able to hide their insults under harmless looking posts and as soon as we ban & delete, the next ones will come and yell how we simply delete and ban everything we don't like to read.
Though, keep in mind: We are already deleting really shitty posts like madmen. The junkboard is like a huge brain tumor... Reading it makes you bleed out of your eyes and ears.
Anyway, I think everything worthwhile was said already now. The forum needs harsher moderation, the devs need to write more about what they are going to do and the forum folks need to tune down their insulting. If this place isn't fun to read in, then it isn't fun to work on the game and if it isn't fun to work on it, it's like a second job with shitty payment... nobody wants to do that.
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