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An Idea for The Devs
Lexx:
Well, let me jump back a few years in time: People were posting so many suggestions and often the same, that we just couldn't read every single post and provide feedback of whatever kind. It's a lot work- at least as much as working on the actual game, I'd say. We did read a lot, but it was / is simply impossible to answer every suggestion thread in detail.
I am not saying we handled it good, but there were only so and so many things we could do per day. It simply flooded the gates. In the end, it would have required a special person who would do nothing else than reading everything and transforming it into a list with good overview and priority, etc.
--- Quote from: DeputyDope on May 04, 2013, 03:48:48 pm ---which is funny considering that the exact opposite has happened this session - huge gameplay features being implemented without no warning whatsoever.
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"As far as I know"
The only "huge gameplay feature" I remember right now is idling. Everything else was changes to the existing system, I think. Not 100% sure right now, though. Last wipe is already many months ago.
DeputyDope:
--- Quote from: Lexx on May 04, 2013, 03:51:03 pm ---Well, let me jump back a few years in time: People were posting so many suggestions and often the same, that we just couldn't read every single post and provide feedback of whatever kind. It's a lot work- at least as much as working on the actual game, I'd say. We did read a lot, but it was / is simply impossible to answer every suggestion thread in detail.
I am not saying we handled it good, but there were only so and so many things we could do per day. It simply flooded the gates. In the end, it would have required a special person who would do nothing else than reading everything and transforming it into a list with good overview.
"As far as I know"
The only "huge gameplay feature" I remember right now is idling, the rest was changes to existing system, I think. Not 100% sure right now.
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the HUGE gameplay changes were ALOT this season starting with broken AC, the last being forced to work day in and day out to craft stimpaks and 5mm AP.
which is why you should say what are you working on / planning to change so you don't waste your time implementing shit features half the server don't want and the other half are indifferent to it.
maybe a sub-forum for it...
Lexx:
Well, then let me make my post a little more precise:
--- Quote ---The active devs RIGHT NOW are - as far as I know - mainly trying to fix broken features and not add huge new ones.
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I never wanted to say that broken features are beging fixed since last wipe.
vedaras:
well, i imagine fixing stuff like bugs etc. as a priority for a complete finished game, which requires no changes in mechanics/gameplay etc. only new content and bug fixes.
But the current game state is beta, still many stuff needs to be developed/changed and only then most of the work should be put in fixing. i know that devs do not get a cent for what they are doing now, so its not really fair to tell them what to do, but players also donate, they put the part they can in contributing the game, so they feel like having right to say the opinion about game, the problem now is that both sides think about their own part, when they should think about the other.
JovankaB:
--- Quote from: Nice_Boat on May 04, 2013, 03:11:08 pm ---listening only to people who tell you how awesome you are might be good for a therapy session, but it won't help you in making better development decisions.
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I don't think I ever wrote about a place for yes-sayers. I meant a board for people who instead
of indulging in personal attacks (like you) give their feedback about features which are getting
implemented or planned by criticizing them in a polite, and more importantly - rational manner.
--- Quote ---Another hilarious thing about this idea is that I suggested something like that with the players who'd be allowed to participate in such a closed forum being selected by the community via a popular vote
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I think perhaps we meant two different things, because I didn't mean a place for some kind
of "community representation". I see no need for this kind of thing. In fact I find it unethical
and harmful, I would never want to force any player to be represented by a person they did
not choose and that's how elections work unless everyone agrees and votes the same person.
I meant a place for everyone who can give their feedback to developers in acceptable manner,
and any person could be invited as long as they were capable to discuss like mature people.
Now, if a group of players instead of stating their opinion individually wants to choose someone
to write on their (and only their) behalf, nobody is stopping them from doing so. You can do it
even now. If they pick someone who will focus on personal attacks, flaming, sniping, posting
crap, such person could be simply ignored and not invited to such closed forum. At the same
time I see no reason why we couldn't invite any person who is capable to discuss like an adult,
just because the person didn't win some "community election".
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