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DeputyDope:

--- Quote from: greenthumb on April 27, 2013, 10:58:01 am ---I didnt find a point for restarting arms race again, i see only deficit for anybody who used to play. No funnier TC, No more helpful situation for newcomers, Not easier farming/crafting/whatever, just instant loose of what you made to be able have fun, So why we need restart arms race once we are all well armed and looking for fight?

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the game stops being fun the moment you have to beg players on irc/channel 0/ncr/whatever to come pvp.

greenthumb:
yes,true dope, but whats the real objective reason/s they left?

As first soties left becouse of quite fair feature with iddler, simply 99% "cheaters" had problems with it + Tlamk2 wiped in same time. That made them just convert to another game, then avalanche of various whine threads began, it made many people without opinion take opinions of this numerous threads. And now we are dealing with so low amount of players. What's objective reason to leave 2238 except new server in old f2 style? Simply none or almost none. Becouse SS crafting is realy good right now, Gathering except gatlings/mfc/5mm ap is same as it was. No slight changes and it will most likely improve with updates.

Now people who left, demands wipe or another rollbacks to bring them they old environment. But they do not even realize, they on their own created this players absence. They left, but they want players here.... Just like a weird democratic country.

DeputyDope:

--- Quote from: greenthumb on April 27, 2013, 11:26:44 am ---yes,true dope, but whats the real objective reason/s they left?

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-stealing nerfed
-bombing nerfed
-trade broken
-encouragement of pounding rocks day in and day out to slowly get gear to be able to pvp
-unsafe crafting locations to craft even 10mmSMG
-pointless grinding to get access to "safe" advanced workbenches.
-ninja "fixes"(e.g.  randomly changing shit in mid-session to make your characters obsolete)
-pointless blueprints grinding to craft even shit gear
-incomplete crafting
-bad NPC balance in random encounters
-NPCs ninja-loot
-awful character imbalance
-useless skills
-lack of improvement on the generated maps on the world map, which leads to shit respawn spots and lack of variety to world map pvp.
-lack of vision
-lack of dev/player interaction
-boring repeatable quests
-lack of game content that wouldn't break game balance (bozar, yk32 pulse pistol, NCR armor etc)
-useless nerfs (e.g.. crippling mutants at gunrunners quest and not being able to pick up their weapons)
-pointless lockers that can't be opened.
-abusive GMs
-pointless alting (e.g. getting gear from hinkley for a low intelligence character)

Zuczek:
True.

C.H.A.R.L.I.E:

--- Quote from: Mayck on April 27, 2013, 10:24:46 am ---The arms race starts all over again...

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This is sort of an existential issue for the game, like what is the ultimate point exactly? It seems that most people have completed the game 1,5 years into a season, and there is nothing left to do. Building up infrastrcuture such as tents, making your trade\crafter\miner\farmer\ alts, PvP alts, and the so called arms race, IS the game in my opinion. Therefore i think 1,5+ year season is too long.


--- Quote from: greenthumb on April 27, 2013, 10:58:01 am ---in case of wipe it would be like a week to gather all stuff again, but whats the major diffrence? Do PVP apes desire to have 1 week of PVE fun before doing PVP again?

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This myth again, that after a week everyones fully geared. Just not true.

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