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Lotus_:

--- Quote from: Mayck on April 27, 2013, 10:24:46 am ---The arms race starts all over again...

There are still things that need to be finished, nerfed, buffed before we can do wipe.

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well do that with the wipe, thats what the wipe is isnt it bringing to ideas to the game and restarting it? also i really think that you should add a voteing system to things before you start nerfing and destroying the game further this is why people are leaving because devs made it unplayable man cant you tell why everyone is whineing and leaving? if you change things you should make a vote see if its dooable before doing it this is what pisses people off, wipe the game add the new feautures with the wipe, fix the crafting system like bfore maybe, last session you nearly had this game right? but making it more confusing and annoying just isint playable and makes people leave, all these things you need to do just add it in the wipe and wipe the fucking game

and even though i hate dope what hes saying is true

Nice_Boat:
Here's some food for thought: how many people will stop playing after the wipe due to losing their gear, which obviously isn't free anymore and no matter what Jovanka says will require some painful crafting-related grind because there's no viable way of farming stuff? It's pretty safe to assume the arms race is not going to restart because the gangs have all left, so you're probably not going to recreate the surge that's been associated with people rebuilding their logistics. Nessies are just the background noise, for them wipe or no wipe doesn't matter and they will give you something like 5-15 players on the server depending on the time of the day - but the few regulars who are still clinging to 2238 might actually feel forced to leave because they won't have the help of their teammates to go through the early game.

Basically, you guys are screwed either way. If you don't wipe people are going to feel cheated due to all the changes to the economy in this session and will continue being butthurt due to having to work with a different set of rules than the players who accumulated their wealth back in the beggining of the session - and if you wipe, you're going to lose players because early game is horrible for loners and there are no organized groups left.

The only way you could salvage this server would be to scrap most of the changes and backtrack to something like the 2010 version of the game, but then again the attitude you've shown over the last few weeks will leave many people refusing to play out of spite... and if that wasn't bad enough, even more people would just expect more bullshit in the future and save themselves the trouble of going through the same experience of witnessing the slow deterioration of the server again.

I'm sorry to say this, but there are no good options left for 2238 and in a year it's going to look like one of Xenom's projects. Your backs are firmly pressed against the wall and there's nothing you can do to stop the slide towards the server population of 0-20 aside from doing something that you've proven to be psychologically incapable of, like replacing some of the devs. Basically, you're back to day 1, 2009 - but this time there's butthurt instead of hype.

Congratulations, I'm pretty sure there's plenty of people that couldn't do worse even if they tried.

Floodnik:
:(
Are we ever going to get the 2238 we want? Probably not.
Memento mori. Looks like everything has its end.

Mike Crosser:

--- Quote from: Floodnik on April 27, 2013, 02:00:44 pm ---:(
Are we ever going to get the 2238 we want? Probably not.
Memento mori. Looks like everything has its end.

--- End quote ---


I thought the next update was unicorns!

Furior:
Devs must realize that we play for fun. 2238 must be harsh, but that doesnt mean we have to losing OUR TIME doing stupid things like opening a fucking insane quantity of chests to be able to craft the basic stuff and forcing us to MAX all the damn skills (to open chest, 300 lockpick;to get mercs, 300speech; steal, sneak, barter, all the same). They have to stop trolling us implementing features like: Int to get stuff in hinkley (they perfectly know the characters who go there doesnt have IN. They may want us to fight with crafters, btw...), implementing recipes which mats are not implemented yet, giving us +1 perk (lvl 24 perk) but forcing crit builts to waste it just to be as good as they were while the other builts can get much more hp or damage, removing the brotherhood armor to make pvp battles shorter, nerfing ew (im not talking about gatling laser..). Devs please....If you want to have chances to improve this game, please, before implementing something, THINK!. And dont forget you can ask opinions here in the forum about new features before implementing them.

A wipe + big changes in game, thats the last hope of 2238.

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