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T-888:
Nicely written, I didn't thought about the subject from such a perspective.

I might that add that not only "the rest of the game" needs a buff and improvements, but also everything concerning town control, PvP activities needs some nerf. The town control box was completely out of control this session which gave immense amount of advantage to PvP players, previously it wasn't that bad as far as I know. When you look at your 45k buffout in the base, there's like no way to even consider any alternatives how to play differently.

Giftless:

--- Quote from: Kilgore on March 10, 2013, 06:55:12 pm ---Conclusions:
- 10% are NCR idlers,
- less than 20% are active TC/PvP factions,
- the whole rest - casuals who only craft and go on PvE hunting

So, there is absolutely no reason to make a conspiracy theory.

--- End quote ---

Some of us reject PvP too due to issues in balancing; things like combat armor being thin as tissue paper versus a bluesuit using a throwing knife or a grease gun. Things like 1 on 1 looking like too fair of a fight, so the other guy has to bring in their dual-log(s). Why throw away good equipment in situations where there's no reward for fighting and everything to gain by taking "evasive action"?

T-888:
So, there is always some percent of cheaters due to flawed game mechanics which both encourage it and allows it and they always been somehow tolerated, even now with all the improvements. There's no perfect system for that, you have to deal with it in your own way.


--- Quote from: Giftless on March 10, 2013, 09:28:13 pm ---things like combat armor being thin as tissue paper versus a bluesuit using a throwing knife or a grease gun.

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JovankaB:

--- Quote from: Nice_Boat on March 10, 2013, 09:15:36 pm ---Also, some mandatory reading to understand the PvP player mentality and why we're right and you're wrong:
http://www.sirlin.net/articles/playing-to-win-part-1.html
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If understood this, the scrub term applies to competitive players who go apeshit when someone uses "cheap" tactics. I think it actually applies mostly to our "pro" PvP players who keep whining about swarms, bombers, trolls and so on. It doesn't make any sense to apply this term to a bunch of "invisible" guys who just hang around together and shoot scorpions with their hunting rifles once in a week. They have different kind of fun, and I don't think such people really complain. Once they get bored, they simply stop playing without any rage posts on the forum. It may be hard to understand for someone who is focused on competition and beating the shit out of other people, but some people just enjoy other stuff.

Kilgore:
The problem is that these Loch Ness players (now more than half of server's population) never emerge from the depths, because they are not encouraged to.

Btw where does your hatred towards people playing pvp in your game come from? I'm asking because it reeks of butthurt in here and the stench is.. overwhelming.

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