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Where is action these days ?
T-888:
Maybe Jovanka doesn't see player interaction as important to the quality of the game.
Most players sit in encounters, shoot scorpions and the game is fine to her ...
Nice_Boat:
--- Quote from: JovankaB on March 10, 2013, 09:40:05 pm ---If understood this, the scrub term applies to competitive players who go apeshit when someone uses "cheap" tactics. I think it actually applies mostly to our "pro" PvP players who keep whining about swarms, bombers, trolls and so on.
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Yes and no. The constant PvP-related whine (and the fact you guys did a fair share of knee-jerk nerfs and buffs) is scrubby as hell. Nevertheless, there's a whole lot of non-PvP players who think that TC is "cheap" or "dumb," and yet they are very ambitious when it comes to setting their goals. Even worse, they think they're somehow better because they avoid the best way of achieving them. That's way more scrubby, because the whining PvPers at least understand how the game works, while the Mad Max wannabe completely misses the point.
For example, some players fancy themselves the best medics in the wastes, build tanky characters and use FA/doc to heal other people during PvP without risking losing their stuff, and yet they completely miss the fact that they could help even more dudes by joining a PvP faction, getting a share of the TC loot and using it to help the poor and those in need.
--- Quote from: JovankaB on March 10, 2013, 09:40:05 pm ---It doesn't make any sense to apply this term to a bunch of invisible guys who just hang around together and shoot scorpions with their hunting rifles once in a week. They have different kind of fun.
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How so? Are you saying they don't care whether they succeed at killing scorpions or not? Why do they even hunt scorpions? Isn't it to gain more influence, get more caps, get more and better stuff and, ultimately, win? I bet my ass those players would rather be successful and wealthy than poor and dead.
If you still try to apply the concept of a "different kind of fun" after reading this article, you obviously missed this part:
--- Quote from: Sirlin ---Let's return to the group of scrubs. They don't know the first thing about all the depth I've been talking about. Their argument is basically that ignorantly mashing buttons with little regard to actual strategy is more "fun."
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JovankaB:
Maybe they have different goals, if the goal is to farm 20 gatlings to have something to shoot other apes on the evening PvP it's understandable to exploit the shit of encounters as fast as possible. If hunting is a way to hang around together with friends in a game in non-competitive manner, it just doesn't work like that. You don't have to do the stuff in the most effective manner, because it's not what matters.
T-888, if you watched the videos I linked to, you would see that the low level newbies actually visit the unguarded towns, mines and other unguarded locations, even though there isn't much to do in them. Maybe it's you who are the Loch Ness monsters who emerge from the depths only on evenings to do the PvP :)
S.T.A.L.K.E.R:
--- Quote from: Wichura on March 10, 2013, 05:27:06 pm ---Where is action these days?
Forum and IRC.
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surprisingly im still banned from #2238
Kilgore:
--- Quote from: Nice_Boat on March 10, 2013, 09:53:28 pm ---For example, some players fancy themselves the best medics in the wastes, build tanky characters and use FA/doc to heal other people during PvP without risking losing their stuff, and yet they completely miss the fact that they could help even more dudes by joining a PvP faction, getting a share of the TC loot and using it to help the poor and those in need.
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Well, I would consider someone doing that as a scrub.
*pats Jovanka on the back
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loch_Ness_Monster
Here, a link for you, because you seem to not know the story behind Loch Ness monsters :P
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