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[Kelin]

Intriguing. However you haven't answered why 100 caps isn't suitable price for each character's life. I mean if you carry gear and care about your life, some pitiful 100 caps is nothing compared to losing that gear so what's wrong with the suggestion?

I don't agree, 100 caps is a lot. For me any gear is easier to obtain than caps. I will rather lose two or more gear sets than be forced to trade or do stupid quests for getting more caps. Sounds like another thing to annoy regular players.

[Sarakin]

Then we can add possiblity to hand over decent weapon/armor to an NPC that will give you some sort of "get out of jail" free card. (you wont get 100 caps, but you wont have to shovel shit).

[avv]

Besides, one caravan quest can give you 10k caps. That's 100 deaths.

[T-888]

Sure, sure, but i have no idea what this change would achieve.

[Kelin]

Besides, one caravan quest can give you 10k caps. That's 100 deaths.

In theory yes, but mostly it gives you 2-5k caps. As I said it's just another reason to grind, nothing more nothing less.

Sure, sure, but i have no idea what this change would achieve.

Exactly.

[TKs-KaBoom]

I agree, but only for Avv, and it should be 1000 shits, since he likes idea so much....

[Aitrra]

hello ever1 in new in forum and i see this discusion i have small idea

first of all if there will be need 100 caps to get out from hospital camp i will quit this game im normal player not pvpr... many times people trolled me in ncr just for fun and i need to shoveling shit all the time they kill me ? and this option with murdering people and geting caps... if this will happens i will pk everone i see and i will be rich in short time easy way to make caps from players and i will be hated be all server = zero social game just kill everone like in fps games

i have idea with your TC games... most in rpg games there is something like "item level" and player cant go into battleground if he dont have enough item level... so for example TC starts and there is show timer ect so in this time players who dont have any gear cant go into town or have low item level like "Leather Jacket , Leather Armor or Robe ect ect" becouse this gear is really easy to get and will not solve the problem
so for example lets say to get into TC-town you need to get 100 item level points
lets do a small list of item levels
Robe - 0 IL
Leather Jacket - 25 IL
Combat Leather Jacket - 75 IL
Leather Armor - 25 IL
Leather Armor Helmet -10 IL
Leather Armor Mark II - 75 IL
Combat Armor - 100 IL
Minigun - 100 IL
Flamer - 75 IL
10mm Pistol - 50 IL
9mm Mauser - 50 IL
ect ect ect all armors and weapons

so when city is under atack all players who wanna enter will see this map first only with view



and then he will see something like this



and what are conditions to join the TC



if he dont have enough item level game will simple answer him "you cannot enter to city becouse you dont have enoguh item level"
also same if there is going grup with party for example 1 guy will have 100 IL and 5 others bluesuits thinks he can smuggle them into town so game will answer them "you cant enter to city becouse one or more of your companions dont have enough item leavel to enter the town"

also it can be look funny you need to have 4 leather jackets to join TC but at least YOU NEED TO HAVE THEM so fraction who atack will have some even shity profits from you better this than punish all players on server with 100 caps paying

also someone can say "im new why i cant enter to city i wanna do quest why the city is blocked omg im angry" ect ect
TC is for short time like 15 mins you can survive this 15 min not entering to city becouse of atack

also there will be persons who will join tc and fast throw gear on ground and other friendly person can collect them and run away so they items will be save and bluesuit invasion still will be... but throwing and collect items needs "time" and also eats AP so atacking or defending fraction need fast shot down this persons... so they will have them items so dear pvpers will be need little skill to play then just camp in one place and waiting for enemy to come

well if this is not about tc fights then sorry for post

i hope you enjoy my idea i just think it is best of solution to solve problems like you have and sorry for my bad english it is not my native language

[Black Widow]

and what about sneaker and looters? this idea is crap. bbs is crying about blue who want to troll when they use 10waves in every fight.

[Roachor]

You act like pvpers don't delight in blowing random players into tiny pieces while questing or whatever. If everyone you met was powerful enough to challenge you you'd probably ragequit since you can't even handle players who have no chance to kill you.

[Kyle]

and what about sneaker and looters? this idea is crap. bbs is crying about blue who want to troll when they use 10waves in every fight.

Than make something better,when this idea is *crap*. The easiest way to NOT help someone is criticise his opinion,idea,solution and not bring anything better. This way there will always be no solution for the problem. Just keep crapping on everything but than dont complain that nobody is doing something about it,when everything is CRAP NOOBISH TROLL etc..

Actually I like the idea about sweeping brahmin poo as a thank you for the savers that took care of me and the one with the items too. I think new players wouldnt be pi**ed off if they could make some extra money,earn some xp and help to their savers which would take them like 1-2 minutes. There is nothing bad about that. Question is,if it would stop random bored blue suiters.

[Roachor]

You complained endlessly about fr so they made respawn short enough to heal and regear one char. So you complain more and your answer is grief all players and promote shit shovelling. The core tcers ruin this game with their whining because they want to keep their private pvp game to themselves so they don't have tough competition. Everything good added to fonline gets nerfed or removed because apes are whining bitches. Gear is practically free for them and difficult for solo players to get and yet their salty tears flow endlessly about the dangeous bluesuits. Remember how ac build could do nothing but run around so they whined until it got nerfed? Same with HH. Hth gets one shotted all the time you don't see hth players bitching about op bgers, all the complaints arw from the self styled "pros" of this incredibly basic game.

[TKs-KaBoom]

You complained endlessly about fr so they made respawn short enough to heal and regear one char. So you complain more and your answer is grief all players and promote shit shovelling. The core tcers ruin this game with their whining because they want to keep their private pvp game to themselves so they don't have tough competition. Everything good added to fonline gets nerfed or removed because apes are whining bitches. Gear is practically free for them and difficult for solo players to get and yet their salty tears flow endlessly about the dangeous bluesuits. Remember how ac build could do nothing but run around so they whined until it got nerfed? Same with HH. Hth gets one shotted all the time you don't see hth players bitching about op bgers, all the complaints arw from the self styled "pros" of this incredibly basic game.

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[falloutdude]

I like this suggestion I tire of killing bluesuits that come back and forth non stop for no reason. also did anyone else notice that everyone that disagrees with this suggestion are the major trolls of this game and they just dont want to have to give something when they are trolling with bluesuit and die.

[Kelin]

also did anyone else notice that everyone that disagrees with this suggestion are the major trolls of this game and they just dont want to have to give something when they are trolling with bluesuit and die.

Yes yes I'm a major bluesuit troll hah    Why don't you play on requiem if you think this idea is so great. Why don't you even play on 2238? Because of 20 sec replication timer, right I must've forgotten.

[falloutdude]

Yes yes I'm a major bluesuit troll hah    Why don't you play on requiem if you think this idea is so great. Why don't you even play on 2238? Because of 20 sec replication timer, right I must've forgotten.

really I dont understand why trolls cant pay 100 caps. we all have atleast 100k each so 100 caps is a fucking joke. This will prevent people from constant trolling. with this 20 sec rep time now its even worse. If they want me to waste ammo on them then they should have to pay when I kill them and waste that ammo.