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[T-888]

i think because your characters dont have rbte perk and snipers received nerf in last update. without rbte they're worthless you can deleteself. have fun!

Nothing to do with perks, lower critical chance decrease damage indirectly, you can understand that you will do less damage overall, but you will hardly notice that because of frequency in comparison to how raw damage nerf stands out. Changes for RBtE and helmets haven't touched damage, witch could be easily observed if it was, and it happens to be the case and that these changes aren't responsible for that.

Anyway, in building the next bit of the spreadsheet, to test bursts and their criticals, I learnt that I had applied the critical damage modifier in error (its applied before DT, not after). So slight amendments to the single shot damages:

Applied with update 28/06/2012, wasn't mentioned in the changelog.

Practical armors/helmets have high DT toward lazer resistance witch explains that lazer damage is affected by this change the most.

Personal input. That "fix" wasn't necessary at all, it was like that for a long long time and the balance was made around that, now it's just a nerf and not only for lazer, but aimed shots in general.

[Brujah]

I knocked at least 4 guys today using a sniper with no RBtE, what are you people talking about?

[X_Treme]

yeah, you can ko that guys, but what happen with your damage? was high? or low?

[Xisingr Will]

So this Thread is about how bad damage Energy Weapons are?...

[DeputyDope]

So this Thread is about how bad damage Energy Weapons are?...

yes.

[Brujah]

yeah, you can ko that guys, but what happen with your damage? was high? or low?

20~ dmg non crits and 60-120 dmg crit.

[Grizzan]

they have you are just noob and cant use ew properly

[Kelin]

Personal input. That "fix" wasn't necessary at all, it was like that for a long long time and the balance was made around that, now it's just a nerf and not only for lazer, but aimed shots in general.

Exactly. Energy weapons weren't nerfed, the recent changes hurt mainly all aimed shots. It's so frustrating to know that you simply cannot kill your enemy. Big gunner does constant devastating damage but sniper does 14, 17 and wow critical hit for 43 dmg! Something must be wrong because I don't use snipers anymore (sniper class is my favourite btw).

[T-888]

So now i guess we need to beg for changes to be undone, again. Great, the spirit of 2238 never dies, always cursed.

[manero]

You know what is funny? Current season was the only one that no one whined about aimed crits, not even me crits were very, very good but on the other hand bursts were also good so there was a balance. I can't understand why devs nerfed aimed crits.

[T-888]

I can't understand why devs nerfed aimed crits.

It's simple, Solar changed the damage formula because it didn't make sense to him. There's nothing complicated about that.

[Eternauta]

bypass

[TKs-KaBoom]

Yeah its so awesome biggunners are all that matter, snipers suck dick, lasers suck dick, plasma licks cock and balls.  Fantastic game!  PvP there is only one mould to use, big gunners.  Ac trolls and HH are honorable mentions......

[Doobee]

I usualy do 120-200 eye crits with plasma and pretty much the same (-20 maybe?) with lazer and even magneto so ye the dmg needs to be bufed because I cant one hit that mutant!

[_Youkai_]

You know what is funny? Current season was the only one that no one whined about aimed crits, not even me crits were very, very good but on the other hand bursts were also good so there was a balance. I can't understand why devs nerfed aimed crits.

I never thought that I would say this, but... I totaly agree with you.