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[Kelin]

Trust me, nobody else is as rich as SoT.

[avv]

SS are valuable, heh you see. Buying them like buffout is a nice option, and a suggestion to make them easier to craft would be better to just abuse and be cool with it.

But how do you buy ss from drugstores? You craft healing powders, thousands of clicks needed. Admittedly buying buffout from Reno with a sneaker was somewhat exciting but now we got those new casinos with previewless doors so we need a fast relog scout to see what's in the other side when exiting the casino. Once spawned in the middle of 3 guys, after that used fast relog scout every time. Also having a shopchecker alt for casinos isn't a bad idea either. So this purchasing isn't particularly abuse-free either.

Shopping is somewhat fun, but once we have like 170 players theres only crap in shops 24/7. Shops working correctly is highly dependent on player ammount and the ammount of dedicated powerfarmers online. I facepalmed hard 2 sessions back when there was 2 russians camping tanker for 8 hours every day and bought every combat armor the shop stocked.

[T-888]

But how do you buy ss from drugstores? You craft healing powders, thousands of clicks needed.

Gold nuggets with a dog mule, yes those thousands of seemingly worthless gold nuggets from TC, each can be sold for 50 caps in every trader. Then there's stimpacks obtained from TC too( http://clip2net.com/s/28z4u ), last resort is caps or selling buffout(http://clip2net.com/s/28z4Q), some members were prone to use healing powders too, with some autoclicker, that's the very last resort, the most slowest.

Trust me, nobody else is as rich as SoT.

No other team play like us, that's why. Not abuses, no cheating or shit like that, it's in the common players head that all we do is cheat and abuse.

[Action Jack]

@avv I never traded for buffout last session I wasn't a lazy ass I crafted every drug in the game, now with broken drug crafting and blue print waste of time hunting, making a theif was necessary to get things such mentats and pyscho.

Its total shit my way of getting gear and alternative to the crap blue print system has turned to shit, and I well probably join McLooter on another server and learn russian now.

Also T-888 for me I'm sick of adapting to this game, why play a game I don't enjoy quiting sounds better than trying to adapt to more crappy changes. Sorry we are not all no lifers pro like you who are tough guys because we play 2238.

None other team play like us, that's why.

Because we have lives and jobs to attend to.

[Wichura]

I'm really glad I had my part of fun from using lazor-spammer character, when it was "hard work/pure fun" mix like 30/70. Now it seems 70/30 or worse, I don't even try.

And when stealing is impossibru or whatever, farming is bad and will be nerfed soon (I guess), crafting close to impossibru either (due to depleted uranium source in only one city), what's the Righteous Way To Get MFCs? Not that I care, I'm just curious.

[T-888]

Because we have lives and jobs to attend to.

Huh, that's where your wrong, we all have job, school and don't play 24/7, we just play as a team. Simple explanation, we have a large faction that uses common bases, no individual member has own base, but i'm not here to explain you how that makes things in fonline a piece of cake when playing with people who aren't base raping children, there's no trust issues amongst us, we share passwords, characters and everything.

It's how we play, not specific things we have done.

[avv]

Gold nuggets with a dog mule, yes those thousands of seemingly worthless gold nuggets from TC, each can be sold for 50 caps in every trader. Then there's stimpacks obtained from TC too( http://clip2net.com/s/28z4u ), last resort is caps or selling buffout(http://clip2net.com/s/28z4Q), some members were prone to use healing powders too, with some autoclicker, that's the very last resort, the most slowest.

All of those methods are questionable. Gold nuggets: weight like hell, best get high cw alt and even then hauling them is hell. Dog mule? That gets townbursted or it just disappears or dies randomly.
Stimpaks and gold are received from tc locker. Yea but you need SS to win at tc in first place, unless you want to encourage players to capture towns when nobody is around.

I know all these methods you presented. Stimpaks can also be received from VC patrols when farming cas for hq fibers.
But all the same, abuse is faster so powergamer does that.

[T-888]

All of those methods are questionable. Gold nuggets: weight like hell, best get high cw alt and even then hauling them is hell. Dog mule? That gets townbursted or it just disappears or dies randomly.

Dog mule with CW alt, get some friend to help you with protection some sneak, no problem if you control the town ... oh wait right you have own base, when controlling a town with some team, most probably don't share any loot. That makes a lot of sense.

Stimpaks and gold are received from tc locker. Yea but you need SS to win at tc in first place, unless you want to encourage players to capture towns when nobody is around.

Not so much as you think, all it takes one victory to loot more SS from enemy/get first rewards from town. Fight for a town, keep it, control it and profit. Town control.

My point again, the way how you play. Start playing the game.

[racoon]

i have 200% steal skill and 10 luck and i was stealing enclave yesterday without any fail.

[Kelin]

Good for you, fail 3 times and you can say bye bye to stealing 

[avv]

Tbh I don't even know what we're talking about. Best non-abusive way to get superstims? Triple if you think about it, winning at tc requires more abuse than all the things we discussed here combined. You have to abuse to get almost all the gear needed in tc fight. All gatling lasers, avengers, 5mm and superstims we use are already abused. Don't forget fastrelogs and all the dual logging for scouts and looters.
So you can just forget tc loot being some sort of non-abusive way to get SS.

I honestly can't think of any way to get superstims without helping it with abuse. Abuse meaning making one-purpose only alts to bypass something, fastrelogging, multilog or using autoclicker.

[manero]

Jovanka fixed stealing. Next time she will fix something else. Deal with it. She is good developer.

[T-888]

I wouldn't call that all abuse, some galtings/avengers maybe. By the way, it's possible to farm them in TB with few people, and we actually did that for a while, and can still do that. Any high CW alt can get a dog, sneakers/looters are necessary anyway if you wish to PvP at all.

Making alts have been a part of fonline, like forever. I wouldn't call that abuse, just bad game mechanics, unfinished mechanics, call it whatever you want, but not abuse.

All that can't be combined if you don't play together with players and cooperate, dog mule+CW alt in towns can't be used if you don't have a friend helping with protection because why should he if you don't share a base, as you said you will just get bursted. Efficient use of TC locker resources to obtain other items can't be done if the rule is who first get's to TC box, get's the loot, individual player get's the profit not a player group.

[Wichura]

Jovanka fixed stealing. Next time she will fix something else. Deal with it. She is good developer.

Bad bad Jovanka, she nerfed some shit instead of FIX TC NAO!111

I really like how fast and easy reasons to whine moar are finding. Aren't high AC trolls now "fashionable" for that?

[JovankaB]

Jovanka fixed stealing. Next time she will fix something else. Deal with it. She is good developer.

Actually I wasn't the one who fixed it, so I'm not the one to be praised.
I would do the same thing though ;P

I fixed brahmin pooping one hex in pens!