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[g4ce]

people who think shoveling shit is fun , and a competition are very sick players, i don't think shit is funny or fun to look at or make a game out of it who can shovel the fastest lol you should make a new shovel, who ever shovels over 200 shits will get the new pooper-scooper xl 2000 the fastest shit shoveling machine in the wastes. but i totaly agree you making new players think all this game is about is shoveling shit :S comeon make some good changes for example actually get the hq chemical componants implanted

[JovankaB]

you making new players think all this game is about is shoveling shit :S

Nonsense, it's just a method to get a few first xp and caps when you don't have anything
and don't know anything about the game nor anyone who could help you.

Actually after update XP for shoveling will drop the higher level you have, so shoveling will
be good only for newbies on levels 1-2, then you have to move on. The formula will be 24/level.

I want to make brahmin in the pen "dangerous" and attack shovelers sporadically (without
enabling real combat), so you get XP, but there is a little bit of danger too (not a big one
though, because brahmin hits you only once or at all if you move away in time). Actually
it's implemented already but it doesn't work smooth enough.

I'm doing things I consider fun because it's not a work but hobby. The moment developing
stops being fun and will start feeling like a regular job, I will stop doing it. For example
if had to do the things that some people tell me to do and I wanted to do other things.
I don't need a regular job where I'm not paid and called stupid by random people from Internet.
So new suggestions are very welcome, but whining about known issues is not motivating.

[greenthumb]

I'm doing things I consider fun because it's not a work but hobby. The moment developing
stops being fun and will start feeling like a regular job, I will stop doing it. For example if had
to do the things that some g4ce tells me to do and I wanted to do other things. I don't need
a regular job where I'm not paid and called stupid by random people from Internet.
So new suggestions are welcome, whining is pointless. Any more questions?

Iam glad you said this, so people can understand your motivation. I ll try to create some idea/s which should ba funny for developer too(if iam able to). I totaly understand why you are doing this. Now our problems are...

1.Can we (players) create suggestion which will be fun to be implemented for developers? Becouse most of funny things are people doing by themselves(own creativity) not being forced into it.
2 Fixing previous fails/bugs in game will never be fun. So how we can motivate you into fixing, completeing previous game features, which you are not author? Or can we help with this anyway?

[Ox-Skull]

As T-888 stated, there is nothing wrong with obtaining first few lvls by shovelling shit.

Also why is everyone acting like a tool towards jovanka, grow the fuck up.

[JovankaB]

Can we (players) create suggestion which will be fun to be implemented for developers?

Lots of things that got implemented are player suggestions.

Fixing previous fails/bugs in game will never be fun.

For me fixing, making things work can be fun. It depends on many things.
Reading whining or even name calling doesn't make it more fun.

[greenthumb]

Also why is everyone acting like a tool towards jovanka, grow the fuck up.

If iam right developers are mostly people who are working on game to improve its quality. Way which they do it, is way which they want to. Thats becous they do it for free. While we will be playing for free, all of us should be "little" developers, or "tools" for ones which spend more time with developing then playing. This is not so hard to comrpehend. Thanks

[TKs-KaBoom]

I sincerely believe most of you are "tools".

[BOS Armorer]

We are all tools in a way, we are trying out this game and telling the developers what to fix. It's their game peoplez. Our reward for this is we get to enjoy playing the game. If you do not like something, then suggest changing or removing it, but do not whine as that will just guarantee it remaining as it is. If you do not like it, if you think it's so easy to change everything, then you make your own FOnline. Noone's making you play this, you are doing it for free of your own will, so bitching about it is just stupid.

[Ox-Skull]

My use of the word "tool" has been misunderstood.

Tool can be slang for idiot or moron in Australia

It was aimed at the people who where giving Jovanka a hard time about the poop fixing when there is more important things to fix, and to my understanding she is beginner at scripting.

[TKs-KaBoom]

My use of the word "tool" has been misunderstood.

Tool can be slang for idiot or moron in Australia

It was aimed at the people who where giving Jovanka a hard time about the poop fixing when there is more important things to fix, and to my understanding she is beginner at scripting.

Yeah, I think everyone understood the correct meaning alright   Thanks for confirming....

[Ville]

Look alot of the whining and complaining comes from things that don't make sense or limits a player to obtain gear, telling players they can use one alt for all the crafting and then only allowing them to craft 2 things per hour there is bound to be frustration. The thing is this game has potential to be good, there has been many succesful mods turned into full production games that are on the shelves of video game stores. Not saying that this is the intent of this game but saying these things have happened in the industry. But I have seen the IRC chats with the name that won't be mentioned and it doesn't help when people are frustrated with the game and people get trolled by GM/developing team. Also it doesn't help when the GMs/Developing team says things like "deal with it or so and so is a retard". So I understand player frustration and the name calling.

Look this community is nothing but trolls somebody gets mad at the game it is not really professional even if this isn't done for living to call players retards and tell them to shut up and stop whining when they are angry at a game feature. It also doesn't help when somebody tries to put forth an arguement why such and such feature idea is bad and then the end result is banning and deleting post or banning them from IRC. It also doesn't help when 3/4 of the community sees frustration posts and irc chats and gets sick thrill to piss them off even further with idiotic trolling comments.

I have worked many jobs in my life time and if I ever once told somebody to quit whining or call them a retard because they are complaining about the company I work for there goes my job I would get fired. So don't give anybody lecture on maturity or act that these people are innocent they aren't. I have seen surf write some really trollish things to people when they are frustrated, and I have seen Johnny Nuclear call somebody a retard. If you want maturity then act mature yourselves, I do not know anybody in this community who is fully mature or can handle not posting a meme or write something trollish to piss off somebody even further who is already frustrated.

[BOS Armorer]

My use of the word "tool" has been misunderstood.

Tool can be slang for idiot or moron in Australia

It was aimed at the people who where giving Jovanka a hard time about the poop fixing when there is more important things to fix, and to my understanding she is beginner at scripting.

My mistake. I agree, however

[codave]

I sincerely believe most of you are "tools".

Tools are useful though.  We're something else.

I'm still amazed that people are so riled up over shot shoveling, though.

[T-888]

I'm amazed how anyone can focus working on shit shoveling at all, very important stuff you know. Nerf poo distribution, implement angry cows that makes shit shoveling more of a challenge and decrease experience gained from shoveling shit at higher levels, smarter cow movement. I can feel how the game get's filled with content and absolutely necessary features to improve game play experience, not to mention that 95% players of the game will be happy about it and the effective usage of developers time to improve quality of the game.

Don't you just love 2238? Love with all your heart, you can almost feel it in the air.

Nevermind.

I'm doing things I consider fun because it's not a work but hobby.

Why your hobby couldn't be focusing on priorities? Motivate yourself!

[DeputyDope]

Nerf poo distribution, implement angry cows that makes shit shoveling more of a challenge and decrease experience gained from shoveling shit at higher levels, smarter cow movement.

yeah i lol'd too when i first read that poo distribution gonna get nerfed.