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Wiktor_pl:
Guys, I just watched one film that really inspired me to share with you. At start, sorry for my english. But back to the topic. I guess most of you guys, if not all, are here cause we love the Fallout world (even ultra NCR trolls i guess). Anyway, though i like to participate in postapocaliptic world, i would rather participate only in virual world. Current global economic and society system is going to fall, cause its based on money and unequality. Check this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KphWsnhZ4Ag, its considering the problem: are humanity is going to fall in oblivion or we will live in paradise? I would personally left the things as it is, but i feel that it can occure its not possible in close future. See you and i hope we will make the world better, well, if not better, then just prevail, cause if we stay in situation i think humanity will kill itself.

boatshift:
the world is dying everyone knows it humanity is the problem we are killing what we love slowly

chocolate_chip_cookies:
Thanks for sharing. This reminds me though of the many practice communities that already tried ideas like these. Notably the Oneida Community and Koreshan Unity. And others.

Here's a list of Utopian communities: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Utopian_communities

The Venus Project looks like a modern Utopian community idea.

Wiktor_pl:
The saddest thing is that humanity is capable of doing such thing, but it seems like it wont work anyway. Its because of lack of education and manipulation from media (which media are well educated people, using their knowledge to make others worse) that make people shallow/narrow view of world, which is "to work, eat, sleep, fuck, watch TV/computer" and nothing more. If everyone was educated enough and had posibility to develope himself, to live, not only exist, people would understood the urge of that kind of society. But, again, governments arent likely to make education the way it should be - exploring the world instead of aquiring dry knowlegde from books to make good marks and to pass to next class - because educated people are hard to control. It sucks, damn it, sucks so hard, cause, like that guy said in the film, we got technology advanced enough to make our planet Paradise in 10 years. Anyway, if i would see any chance it could work i would be in first row willing to help. I think what we can do is to raise our childrens to become educated and sensitive people, who will, maybe someday, create Paradise on Earth. Moreover, it actually might be different than communism or other skewed Utopia ideas that were  if everyone would be well educated - educated people are hard to decieve.
God, it made me really reflecting. :D

Nice_Boat:

--- Quote from: Wiktor_pl on July 06, 2012, 02:37:55 pm ---Current global economic and society system is going to fall, cause its based on money and unequality. Check this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KphWsnhZ4Ag, its considering the problem: are humanity is going to fall in oblivion or we will live in paradise? I would personally left the things as it is, but i feel that it can occure its not possible in close future. See you and i hope we will make the world better, well, if not better, then just prevail, cause if we stay in situation i think humanity will kill itself.

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To be honest, it reeks of communism redux with some new aesthetics and a large dose of Greenpeace ideology. Even assuming stuff like that is being directed by well-meaning people there's always the issue of control and abuse of power when they pass away. Democracy and free trade involving money (preferably real, using something like the gold standard) work because they're systematically immune to tyranny to a large extent - and tyranny not only makes your life miserable if you're not among the privileged ruling class, it also hurts scientific progress and economic growth. Basically, I wouldn't want to be a part of society created by delusional hippies who seem to easily forget mankind has been down that road before and it sucked.

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