3d models development

[Jimmy BoyX]

Wow, very nice combat armor. Good guys.

[killer1001]

what if the BG run would be on the waist level but not on the side. if you can make it run with the weapon in front of him, then i guess it could be cool. the only problem is the minigun and RL since they are the different BG weapons.

[Gray]

I've decided to fix CA, it was a draft, I wasn't even sure it works.

Tighten it on the waist, enlarged chest plates, fixed some UVWs on the body and attaches.
New arc: http://rapidshare.com/files/446106969/Karpov_CA.rar
Anyone who want may edit a texture or even paint a new one, I'll accept any help.
MA, PA, APA are on the queue.

[Graf]

Before I forget, someone made that cool M60 model I used, I can't credit him/her because I don't know who has.

We all have to say thanks to this guy from russian community for that awesome model.

[Amrok]

Running with the big guns would look more natural if the char carried the gun sideways close to the body.

Like in this picture.

Negativ, M249 cannot be considered as a standart for "big gun" (~6-7kg only).
When you have to run with heavy gun, you need to keep both hand close your body :
 - left hand near his shoulder
- right hand just up the belt level.

[Graf]

Negativ, M249 cannot be considered as a standart for "big gun" (~6-7kg only).
When you have to run with heavy gun, you need to keep both hand close your body :
 - left hand near his shoulder
- right hand just up the belt level.

I agree with your points, but both m249 and m60 weights about 10-10.5 kg (~23 lb). Both are machine guns., so they definitely could be considered as a big gun.

[avv]

Real World:

Wanted to adress this aswell but couldn't find a good pic. In fallout the chars kick their legs way too up, almost knee-high, while in the pic shown by pistacja that is totally not the case.

[Alvarez]

The Fallout style was supposed to be comic-/cartoon-like, so the movements and proportions were exxagerated, to compensate the lack of details in size.

[avv]

The Fallout style was supposed to be comic-/cartoon-like, so the movements and proportions were exxagerated, to compensate the lack of details in size.

You're right. The main character looks like a greek statue, he shoots pistols and smgs carelessly with one hand and rifles always from the hip. It's another story whether this style should be continued or not.

[Graf]

It's another story whether this style should be continued or not.

It should be continued. Otherwise, it will be another VanBuren not Fallout 2 models/animations.

[Surf]

You're right. The main character looks like a greek statue, he shoots pistols and smgs carelessly with one hand and rifles always from the hip. It's another story whether this style should be continued or not.

Ofcourse it should be.

[Solar]

I think running should be made to look less odd, even compared to the old models it looks odd I think (maybe I just never paid attention to it ), but theres no reason that they shouldn't shoot rifles from the hip etc - would be weird to not have that.

[Alvarez]

Ofcourse it should be.

Certainly.

But there's a catch - original Fallout art were high-poly models, rendered into frameset animations - round forms, smudged with dithering, chopped into 10 frames.
Interplay modelers made a nice dish, framers threw it in blender, coders smeared this paste on bread and it tasted delicious.

3d models are built-in, they have smooth animation, clean edges, more realistic proportions: it looks a bit comically, when they run with legs high in the air, perhaps because the original lacked transition frames due to technical limitations and with smooth transition it's not really necessary to exxagerate.
I even wonder how was it back then, when Interplay released the Van Buren videos and what did the fans think, especially those who were averted with the 3d look? What aspect was alien, weird to them? Realistic movements?

[avv]

I think running should be made to look less odd, even compared to the old models it looks odd I think (maybe I just never paid attention to it ), but theres no reason that they shouldn't shoot rifles from the hip etc - would be weird to not have that.

Yes only the running needs some attention. Shooting guns carelessly just suits the slugmatch style of combat.

[SmartCheetah]

*Is making few basic skintones for naked bald guy.*
What'd you guys think. 6-8skintones will be good? I don't see real point in making more than 10 of them.

(Of course I'm saving hues number to match it with female base texture )

But there is another possibility. I might do 6-8 basic ones (Pale, normal, black, tanned etc.) + tatooed one for all of them. From original Fallouts perspective tattoos will be really small so it shouldn't matter whatever they will be. Probably some tribals. I can also try making two versions. Low tatooed guy + heavy tattooed guy for every skintone.
Later on I'll send some fruits of my work but first I need some feedback about tattoo idea.

I'm almost sure it can be done another way than basic skin(so you can have different tattoos on ye. Just seperate texture for tatoo - like for clothing) but question is - if there's need for that?

Many thanks for Karpov for pointing me few things and for all the great work he's doing!