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DeputyDope:
--- Quote from: Lordus on April 16, 2012, 04:56:32 pm ---
Why not try different aproach? Focusing on suicide bombers rear could make more difficult to trol. My idea is simple. Every location (base, tent, car or caravan in desert) should be visible for everyone, if there is any explosive and chars with explosives in inventory or hands could not log out. Also crafting explosives in guarded cities would be impossible, because of workbench (why should NCR allows foreiginers to craft explosives that would kill their people?). So simply, every explosive troll would need to create its own arsenal in unguarded city => very high risk of sudden death (Unfair? :o ) and they could not simply store their explosives because of unwelcome visitors. But still, they would have chance to do it. They just need to craft their explosives at secure day or night hours, at distant and abandoned workbenches, and they will have to store them somewhere at public places, behind walls, inside unused bookcases, ... .
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biggest steaming pile of shit i read in a long time. congrats.
Lordus:
--- Quote from: DeputyDope on April 16, 2012, 05:47:43 pm ---biggest steaming pile of shit i read in a long time. congrats.
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Can you tell me why do you think that?
Existing sucide bombers regulations is based on alts (who brings active bomb, who push the detonator, who has bomb in inventory during explosion) and their punisment (longer respawn time)=> it does not work since the beginning of open beta.
Only working regulation of suicide bombing was focused not on alts, but on explosives => they removed them.
I dont want to remove them, i want make more difficult conditions of creating and possesion of explosives for troll purpose.
Do you have any idea why you are able to craft explosives in guarded cities(guarded city is city with functional government)? In your country, you can create your own explosives in public places?
Idea of visibility of your bases if you have explosives there. Whats bad on it? Look at the whole thing from oposite angle: Why the hell is something like invisible tent or base, if you visit it every day, with many chars, often using cars that makes path or brahmins that makes a s...ts?? It is only artifical gameplay element with one purpose: Save possesion of player (save their time). And i suggest to breake this element because of another purpose: dont support suicide trolls in their annoying behaviour.
Disable of logout => to avoid storing explosives in logout chars.
So, dear DeputyDope, where is your shit now?
P.S.: At this moment, you are unable to fight with suicide bombers. You cant prevent their attack, their jump from world map. If my ideas would be implemented, you would be able to kick every stupid or careless suicide bomber.
DeputyDope:
--- Quote from: Lordus on April 16, 2012, 05:59:45 pm --- Can you tell me why do you think that?
Existing sucide bombers regulations is based on alts (who brings active bomb, who push the detonator, who has bomb in inventory during explosion) and their punisment (longer respawn time)=> it does not work since the beginning of open beta.
Only working regulation of suicide bombing was focused not on alts, but on explosives => they removed them.
I dont want to remove them, i want make more difficult conditions of creating and possesion of explosives for troll purpose.
Do you have any idea why you are able to craft explosives in guarded cities(guarded city is city with functional government)? In your country, you can create your own explosives in public places?
Idea of visibility of your bases if you have explosives there. Whats bad on it? Look at the whole thing from oposite angle: Why the hell is something like invisible tent or base, if you visit it every day, with many chars, often using cars that makes path or brahmins that makes a s...ts?? It is only artifical gameplay element with one purpose: Save possesion of player (save their time). And i suggest to breake this element because of another purpose: dont support suicide trolls in their annoying behaviour.
Disable of logout => to avoid storing explosives in logout chars.
So, dear DeputyDope, where is your shit now?
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you do realize that, in order to do damage with a dynamite bigger than a molotov cocktail you have to have traps skill right? you do realize that getting detonator parts is almost impossible, and in order to bomb in a city you have to do ALOT OF SHIT before you start bombing.
don't use analogies to real life, it's fucking pathetic. this is a pot-apoc game anyway, so crafting is a public place seems pretty normal to me.
you have any idea how many troll suicide bombers there are in NCR now? close to 0. i planted a bomb in some guy's backpack liek 2 weeks ago, but that's it.
disable of logout seems like bullshit, AGAIN! you can just force close FOnline anyway to bypass it so why make this crap in the first place?
making base visible will encourage trolling EVEN MORE! example. i get recruited in a fation, i tell my friends "hey i planted a bomb there, go to **:**. then they rape the base. easy.
Roachor:
How is this even an issue? I see people killing in guarded towns with smg and a looting partner but I haven't seen anyone suicide bomb in like 6 months. Btw jov is totally wrong, just because some people in small towns and rural areas don't have access to technology doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Fallout is not the wild west, information hasn't been totally lost. Bos, enclave, hubologists, even marauders use high tech equipment. The scientist who built his dog and genetically engineered a radscorp in broken hills, the one in enclave experimenting on deathclaws both were born after the bombs dropped and yet are educated enough to engage in genetic manipulation. Any high int/science character could analyze old tech and build new things based on it, not everyone is a jet addled farmer. You are letting your preference for westerns over sci fi blind you to the real setting of the game.
Lordus:
--- Quote from: Roachor on April 16, 2012, 06:14:57 pm ---How is this even an issue? I see people killing in guarded towns with smg and a looting partner but I haven't seen anyone suicide bomb in like 6 months.
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They dissapeared because of burst killers, thiefs and suicide bombers. First they left NCR Bazaar, then they left Fonline.
--- Quote from: DeputyDope on April 16, 2012, 06:09:50 pm ---you do realize that, in order to do damage with a dynamite bigger than a molotov cocktail you have to have traps skill right? you do realize that getting detonator parts is almost impossible, and in order to bomb in a city you have to do ALOT OF SHIT before you start bombing.
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Oh, you are suicide bomber roleplayer. That explains why are you angry. In fact, your anger explains why you choosed to "roleplay" suicide bomber.
No, i though that detonators grows on trees like fruits!
--- Quote from: DeputyDope on April 16, 2012, 06:09:50 pm ---don't use analogies to real life, it's fucking pathetic. this is a pot-apoc game anyway, so crafting is a public place seems pretty normal to me.
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NCR is guarded former city state, or small country, with independent elected senate, president, police army, but you can freely kill their residents and visitors. = no real life analogy
--- Quote from: DeputyDope on April 16, 2012, 06:09:50 pm ---you have any idea how many troll suicide bombers there are in NCR now? close to 0. i planted a bomb in some guy's backpack liek 2 weeks ago, but that's it.
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So you think that players should they stay as a victims to entertain you? Goofi DeputyDope, please.
--- Quote from: DeputyDope on April 16, 2012, 06:09:50 pm ---disable of logout seems like bullshit, AGAIN! you can just force close FOnline anyway to bypass it so why make this crap in the first place?
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If you shut down client, your char would stay still online, until someone will kill it.
--- Quote from: DeputyDope on April 16, 2012, 06:09:50 pm ---making base visible will encourage trolling EVEN MORE! example. i get recruited in a fation, i tell my friends "hey i planted a bomb there, go to **:**. then they rape the base. easy.
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First real argument. Solution? Find friends, defend your base, check regulary your visibility.
--- Quote from: DeputyDope on April 16, 2012, 06:09:50 pm ---making base visible will encourage trolling EVEN MORE!roleplay
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example: antiSB patrol roleplay
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