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[manero]

It doesnt sound easy  A lot of work...

[Nice_Boat]

Farming/stealing from strong encounters have been nerfed few times already, mobs drop deteriorated items, you have only few seconds to steal from them (with hard-as-fuck-to-level-up character with 300% Steal skill, less is not effective enough), and it's still considered an "exploit"? Why, in Cthulhu's name?

Because Cthulhu hates you. And you will be eaten last.

[avv]

Only actual problem here is that enclave was designed to be hardass pve encounter that only powerful squads of players are able to defeat in face to face combat. Instead of squads, players just take the abuse way. So we're talking about failed feature. The fact that someone can solo enclave is not a problem, because some just want to do that no matter what.

[Nice_Boat]

Only actual problem here is that enclave was designed to be hardass pve encounter that only powerful squads of players are able to defeat in face to face combat. Instead of squads, players just take the abuse way. So we're talking about failed feature. The fact that someone can solo enclave is not a problem, because some just want to do that no matter what.

Yeah well the problem is that fighting BoS/Enclave is silly because the reward is shit for the effort it takes. I mean those encounters are buffed to the point it's just retarded - troll-tier HP and critchance, PA/APA, top-tier weapons... are you effin' serious? 10 drugged powerbuilds could fight the large ones in an open battle and lose, if I didn't know better I'd expect at least an APA drop there. If I were to choose between fighting Enclave as is and scrapping Gatling/Avenger entirely, I'd just switch to my bazooka/SG sniper alt for PvP - they're just as effective, but aren't so much of a pain in the ass to get (because yeah, it's still waaaay easier to get a sniper rifle/bazooka than Avenger/Gatling, even with the method described in this thread).

[jacky.]

Hahaha you are wrong. I am farming Them with my thief alt 64hp
avengers are good only with 3xbrd, gatling for crits. if you cant farm them you dont deserw to use them. and gatlings are good currency now

[T-888]

I developed this strategy on my own this wipe ( didn't need last session , so needed to do it now ) , perfected it too that is 100% reliable and all you invest is time , drugs , ammo. There's a way how to always spawn inside the encounter where enclave is and never spawn to close to them , as well it's funny how people do it with a sniper rifle , what a waste of time. Of course never die and in case you don't drop the weapon when reentering the map to always have the first turn before enclave to maximize chances of success. All you need is a character with high AP to loot the dropped weapon and a level capped special sneaker build , witch is quite powerful support even in TB.

Though i don't how to prevent this ... i was laughing with my teammates that the only way would be if you just couldn't find enclave ( they don't exist ) , as there plenty more ways how to farm them , this one is the most efficient ( though not the fastest because , there's a trick with dynamites , but dynamites are limited. )

It doesnt sound easy  A lot of work...

It is , once you prepared everything the actual time of obtaining x gatling guns is ridiculously fast.

I'm writing this because avenger miniguns and gatling guns should be rare , a high tier item hard to obtain , but it's not. This is not the case , wasn't before and isn't now.

[Wichura]

Only actual problem here is that enclave was designed to be hardass pve encounter that only powerful squads of players are able to defeat in face to face combat. Instead of squads, players just take the abuse way. So we're talking about failed feature. The fact that someone can solo enclave is not a problem, because some just want to do that no matter what.

Why anyone would bother? Nice_Boat has a point here. And how to share one half-deteriorated avenger with whole team of badasses?

Though i don't how to prevent this ... i was laughing with my teammates that the only way would be if you just couldn't find enclave ( they don't exist ) , as there plenty more ways how to farm them.

There are no caravan encounters anymore, because some, uh, "exploiters" and "abusers" were farming them for uncraftable guns like LSW. Now LSW is craftable, but too weak to make crafting it sense.
So I guess disappearing BoS/Enclave encounters is about to come, as well as VC patrols ("free CAs and snipzor rifles omfg exploit!111"). No more fun from using lazor spammer char anymore

[manero]

If you nerf it, it will affect non-gang members. Not pvp gangers. Atm we have around 100 players, 50 of them play this game for evening pvp and other 50 play for farming and crafting stuff. Pvp gang will always find the way, single player not. Guess who will quit? This server need more players, not less.

Start thinking kurwa.

January: ~230 players
February: ~150
March: ~115

Awesome...

Btw. I would not really care if someone nerf it:

Solar
Last Active:
March 09, 2012, 05:52:11 pm

 

[jacky.]

If you nerf it, it will affect non-gang members. Not pvp gangers. Atm we have around 100 players, 50 of them play this game for evening pvp and other 50 play for farming and crafting stuff. Pvp gang will always find the way, single player not. Guess who will quit? This server need more players, not less.

Start thinking kurwa.

January: ~230 players
February: ~150
March: ~115

last update 8.02

[Michaelh139]

Solar
Last Active:
March 09, 2012, 05:52:11 pm

 

How you have not noticed... that they can log onto forum without online produced?  As well as forum mods.

besides, at prime time it is 200 players still, I see it plenty, though maybe it is my imagination trying to give me hope .

[manero]

besides, at prime time it is 200 players still, I see it plenty, though maybe it is my imagination trying to give me hope .

prime time means that gangs are fighting and one player got at least 3 alts offline jeez... wake up man

[Michaelh139]

prime time means that gangs are fighting and one player got at least 3 alts offline jeez... wake up man

Jee-wiz sorry.

But three alts at a time?  I find that unlikely.  maybe after death of one.  2 at most.

Besides, not all of them can be alts.  there aren't that many gang in middle of battle ALL the time during prime, unlike SOT or others.

I like to believe, at 200, at least 130-150 are real player rest are alt .

[jacky.]

90-120 max. 80 eigrated because of bugs and tc

[Floodnik]

Hm, I thought Enclave encounters were designed not to be touched at all. Because whatever would you do without so called "exploits", you'd always end up being behind from where you started in terms of equipment(assuming you beat this senseless encounter in the first place).
They are here just for teh lulz!

[S.T.A.L.K.E.R]

I almost killed an enclave soldier just me and a 10mm pistol with AP rounds.
then, I miss clicked and I was next to him, and he one hexed me,
He only had 9/507 HP left. I was so mad that day....

06:14:43 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 11 hit points.
06:14:45 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 16 hit points.
06:14:57 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 13 hit points.
06:15:07 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 19 hit points.
06:15:16 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 15 hit points.
06:15:18 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 12 hit points.
06:15:24 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 13 hit points.
06:15:26 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 19 hit points.
06:15:37 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 9 hit points.
06:15:38 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 7 hit points.
06:15:48 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 9 hit points.
06:15:49 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 9 hit points.
06:15:59 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 10 hit points.
06:16:00 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 9 hit points.
06:16:01 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 7 hit points.
06:16:11 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 15 hit points.
06:16:22 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 10 hit points.
06:16:24 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 7 hit points.
06:16:34 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 9 hit points.
06:16:36 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 10 hit points.
06:16:37 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 10 hit points.
06:16:46 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 10 hit points.
06:16:47 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 7 hit points.
06:16:57 • You see an Enclave patrolman.
06:16:57 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 7 hit points.
06:17:11 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 15 hit points.
06:17:23 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 30 hit points.
06:17:32 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 9 hit points.
06:17:44 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 26 hit points.
06:17:55 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 7 hit points.
06:17:57 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 9 hit points.
06:17:58 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 10 hit points.
06:18:07 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 7 hit points.
06:18:08 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 10 hit points.
06:18:10 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 8 hit points.
06:18:19 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 10 hit points.
06:18:20 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 10 hit points.
06:18:21 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 6 hit points.
06:18:30 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 9 hit points.
06:18:32 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 10 hit points.
06:18:33 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 7 hit points.
06:18:35 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 6 hit points.
06:18:37 • Enclave Patrolman was hit for 7 hit points.
06:18:45 • Your armor has broken.
06:18:45 • Your armor has broken.
06:18:45 • You were critically hit for 343 hit points and were killed.
06:18:50 • STALKER13: ...fuuu...
06:18:55 • You see an Enclave patrolman. He has 9/507 hps and is wielding an Avenger Minigun.
06:18:57 • You see STALKER13.
06:18:58 • You see a young man. His whole body is glowing strangely. He has -182/161 hps.