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[jacky.]

well my solo thief can anihilate whole patrol with out single shoot

[Aricvomit]

unfortunatly i was drunk while i was writing this post anways the point i was trying to make was these guys had it down to a science, im not sure what wep he was using. im not going to name him in the forum but hes well known on here. anyways it was roughly 3 minutes for him to get an avenger, a gatling laser, and a plasma rifle with no shots fired save for the one that made the enclave drop the gun, instead of picking up the gun the enclave goes to chase the shooter who is already running out of map, im assuming the chase is a legacy action or faulty programming, and then his buddy goes and picks up the weapon and doesnt get shot because the enclave had moved away. so, yeah its definently a farming method and is kind of an exploit. granted its a clever one and it takes time to make a character capable of it but its happening none the less, and believe me im not whining or crying, i was out there theiving enclave myself. i just happened to run across the extra ordinary nonsense and figured id let it be known.

[jacky.]

If you nerf it, it will affect non-gang members. Not pvp gangers. Atm we have around 100 players, 50 of them play this game for evening pvp and other 50 play for farming and crafting stuff. Pvp gang will always find the way, single player not. Guess who will quit? This server need more players, not less.

Start thinking kurwa.

January: ~230 players
February: ~150
March: ~115

Awesome...

Btw. I would not really care if someone nerf it:

Solar
Last Active:
March 09, 2012, 05:52:11 pm

 

no they did something in last few days!!!
http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,22753.0.html

[Dark Angel]

Holy shit, wipe is developer.
noooo

[Srogi]

I don't understand why everybody wants things to be overly difficult. The game becomes boring when all the pvp apes have to spend hours trying to farm or craft something that should be "rare and hard to obtain". And then nobody wants to use good gear in a fight if its too hard to get.

[Euphe]

unfortunatly i was drunk while i was writing this post anways the point i was trying to make was these guys had it down to a science, im not sure what wep he was using. im not going to name him in the forum but hes well known on here. anyways it was roughly 3 minutes for him to get an avenger, a gatling laser, and a plasma rifle with no shots fired save for the one that made the enclave drop the gun, instead of picking up the gun the enclave goes to chase the shooter who is already running out of map, im assuming the chase is a legacy action or faulty programming, and then his buddy goes and picks up the weapon and doesnt get shot because the enclave had moved away. so, yeah its definently a farming method and is kind of an exploit. granted its a clever one and it takes time to make a character capable of it but its happening none the less, and believe me im not whining or crying, i was out there theiving enclave myself. i just happened to run across the extra ordinary nonsense and figured id let it be known.

then there's no point in that thread

[Aricvomit]

the point is to let people know this is going on. if one person knows about it all should. otherwise its an unfair advantage. but if everyone does it then its the norm and everyone will be on par with each other taking away the advantages that these people have.

[Chrupek]

the point is to let people know this is going on. if one person knows about it all should. otherwise its an unfair advantage. but if everyone does it then its the norm and everyone will be on par with each other taking away the advantages that these people have.

No, no no no. someone figured this out, you dont. Well, you were lucky, so you now know how this works, but why everyone should?
Man, its not any kind of exploit, its just TACTICS. If you want to tell whole community about this... its up to you, but trashtalking about 'unfair advantage' is childish.

[Gob]

Wtf man. Get big guns level profession level 1 and make rockets. Every trader will buy them . Or do like I do I go with 2 other hth freinds with power fist and we punch patrols to death easy as pie

[avv]

No, no no no. someone figured this out, you dont. Well, you were lucky, so you now know how this works, but why everyone should?

Why shouldn't they? Afraid that this gets nerfed? But it's all just tactics 

[Sarakin]

It makes me sick how everyone wants to justify how OKish, risky and such is this. No wonder, these statements are made by players defending every kind of exploit.

This "exploit" can be done with every character that has SD and even with the crappiest gun. If you remove this method, people will find their ways, but the tougher it gets, the less people will actually use it. Why bother with minigun, when I can have better avenger ? Even if it was extremely hard and tedious to get, there will be someone willing to get their hands on them just because they are the strongest weapons in the 2238 arsenal.

Farming Enclave is doable, even with 3 people, not 10 people like Nice_Boat described. Of course, its risky and maybe not worth it in terms of gain/time. But you know, there is legal way.

[DeputyDope]

It makes me sick how everyone wants to justify how OKish, risky and such is this. No wonder, these statements are made by players defending every kind of exploit.

This "exploit" can be done with every character that has SD and even with the crappiest gun. If you remove this method, people will find their ways, but the tougher it gets, the less people will actually use it. Why bother with minigun, when I can have better avenger ? Even if it was extremely hard and tedious to get, there will be someone willing to get their hands on them just because they are the strongest weapons in the 2238 arsenal.

Farming Enclave is doable, even with 3 people, not 10 people like Nice_Boat described. Of course, its risky and maybe not worth it in terms of gain/time.

omg just give enclave rocks and pipe rifle. problem solved. people won't farm them anymore.

[jacky.]

Legal? What is legal way? I Have my way you Have yours. If u are to poor to use it use crapy mini or m60...

[Kelin]

It makes me sick how everyone wants to justify how OKish, risky and such is this. No wonder, these statements are made by players defending every kind of exploit.
...

So you're saying that loners shouldn't be able to get the best gear? You want them to be constantly pwned by other people, even in 1 vs. 1 fights. Well too bad loners always die, because the guy with avenger have friends who help him to farm avengers. A loner with a minigun simply can't. The game mechanics doesn't allow that. I know you don't give a fuck about loners, because you as the gang had avengers in the first days after the wipe. I can imagine you have like 200 avengers stashed in your base, so obviously you want this to be nerfed so you can come and pwn everyone with your avengers.

If this gets nerfed (and I am pretty sure it will), it will be only because of people like you Sarakin. Thank you, thanks to all the people crying about things you "worked hard" on and other people have it as well.

The truth is, I can openly say that I farm avengers quite often. But I play this unrewarding game and lose my stuff very often, so no wonder I have 9 avengers left. I am pretty sure there are people who have their avenger carpets, but those probably don't play as often as me.

[avv]

So you're saying that loners shouldn't be able to get the best gear?

It's not about loners vs groups but a broken feature. It doesn't matter if loner farms good stuff, but if he or a group abuses loopholes then it's a problem.