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[Aricvomit]

well just to make this common knowledge i saw a sneak sniper critter got 1 for 1 on 3 enclave and made each of them drop his weapon and then his compatriot picked up the gun as he went out of sight, so the enclave wouldnt shoot and his friend loots the dropped weapon. if there ever was an exploit this is it. saw him get an avenger, a gatling laser and a plasma rifle in literally 2 minutes with minimal effort. i know some people will bitch and say im being a cry baby but this is actually pretty ridiculous.

[Marko]

I would expect the soldiers to attack whomever is taking their dropped guns, even with punches. I would. Maybe they should have a backup weapon like at least a pistol. I would.

[Aricvomit]

 athe sneaker crits them then the other guy picks it up when they move, i think hes sneaking out of edge of map and coming back in. its hard to tell but no shot are fired except for the arm crits. this also isnt very long range. i dont think npcs kill for picking up dropped guns

[avv]

It's 1 guy on dual log. Known this strategy for a while but been too busy levelling bos thief, enclave thief, sciencer, repairer, fastrelog alts, barter chars and looking for blueprints for months. The game ain't ridiculous at all 

This kind of activity happens when players are tried to force to do teamwork to get something. Instead of hunting in a team able to beat those enclave in fair fight, individual players do it in abusive ways.

[Wichura]

I'm rather impressed someone bothers himself to get these few guns he has to repair then anyway.

[Srogi]

It's 1 guy on dual log. Known this strategy for a while but been too busy levelling bos thief, enclave thief, sciencer, repairer, fastrelog alts, barter chars and looking for blueprints for months. The game ain't ridiculous at all 

This kind of activity happens when players are tried to force to do teamwork to get something. Instead of hunting in a team able to beat those enclave in fair fight, individual players do it in abusive ways.

If its not dual log then its team work. There are people who play together AVV not everybody plays alone.

I really do not see how this exploiting or cheating, its playing the game.

Just because you entered some encounter and got PK by the guy witnessing such horrific events or hate gattling lasers, there is no need to cry nerf every time somebody figures out an untraditional way to farm. The guy took his time leveled a sneak sniper crippler how is this ridiculous or cheating? Last wipe I used to blow up enclave with dynamite which was even easier than what the sniper and his friend, proxy, fast log character is doing. But the gattling laser was useless last wipe, it was how I farmed avengers.

[Kelin]

I'm rather impressed someone bothers himself to get these few guns he has to repair then anyway.

What? No he doesn't have to repair it, since Enclave drops mostly 40-80% condition avengers, which is perfectly sufficient for common pvp. I once farmed 14% minigun from Unity and managed to kill quite a lot of people with it before I died.

EDIT: Back to the topic
Enclave soldiers already have at least 2 times iron grip perk, it's almost impossible to drop their weapon using a sniper or laser. You need silent death and better critical, because it gives you +10 to roll so it is like 30% chance for dropping a weapon. I am pretty sure this gets nerfed at some point, well I don't mind it if avenger becomes a very rare weapon, but I doubt it. People will always find some ways to get it (dynamite, c4, one-hex critburst etc.) if this feature stops working. I wouldn't play my 3xbrd bg after that, obviously.

[Srogi]

There is no difference in damage when it comes to the detioration of big guns or gattling lasers. I think detioration matters more so for targeted shot weapons like sniper rifles or laser.

A 5% detiorated avenger does same damage as a 100% avenger.

[Euphe]

that is fair. what they do is very risky, and if they found a way to creatively farm, then they deserve it.

[avv]

that is fair. what they do is very risky, and if they found a way to creatively farm, then they deserve it.

Actually it's not risky at all. You're risking a sniper rifle, which is easy to farm and 2 radios and some ammo.

[Nice_Boat]

It's more risky if you want to do it efficiently but yeah, it can be 100% safe. Anyway you have to level up an otherwise completely useless char to do it, so I'd say getting those guns at a 1-2/30 minutes rate is a well earned reward, not an exploit.

[Kelin]

Well that's not true, I use my sneaker for regular pvp and for this enclave weapon dropping as well. It's useless only against few people apparently (I hate you avv  )

[Opera]

It sounds like a stupid behavior from the Enclave soldiers. They should simply try to pick up the guns and try to kill by using these instead of trying to play a ninja.

[jacky.]

everyone has his own tactics for looting enclave. i dont get point i have at least 60 av and 60 gatlings and what is wrong with that?
ohhh i get it...you have only mini and m60 right? cry topic...

[Wichura]

everyone has his own tactics for looting enclave. i dont get point i have at least 60 av and 60 gatlings and what is wrong with that?
ohhh i get it...you have only mini and m60 right? cry topic...

I never thought I will agree with you, but now I have to.

Someone puts some effort to level up sneaker-critical-whateverthatis to get some items from specified encounters. What's wrong with that? Oh, dual log? Please, nobody cares anyway unless you use it to some fancy Toilet-Control related actions.
Farming/stealing from strong encounters have been nerfed few times already, mobs drop deteriorated items, you have only few seconds to steal from them (with hard-as-fuck-to-level-up character with 300% Steal skill, less is not effective enough), and it's still considered an "exploit"? Why, in Cthulhu's name?