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FOnline as a social game.
avv:
It's not the lack of trust that causes problems. Once you find people you wanna stick to, then they are your pals for long time. Unless you yourself have the tendency to switch groups fast. The actual problem is that the features don't support teamwork enough. They try to force it, but that's not the way to go.
We got these quests that demand more than 1 people to involve with differend chars. You might expect that they increase teamplay. Wrong. They increase cheating. It's faster to do that gunrunners mutant quest alone with dual logs and alts than with friends. I'll explain why:
Max benefit is received if you speedrun it. That means knowing exactly what to do and when and deciding how long you want to do it. If you do it alone, you always know what to do and can decide when to quit. If you do it with friends, you have to wait for them and can't decide how long you want to do the quest. Or they have to wait for you, works both ways.
Farming is also better alone. You get to keep all loot and don't have to wait for anyone.
Base requires multiple chars to get. It's easier and more comfortable to get yourself 3 alts, tag the leader and log off than find 3 pals to help you.
Only in pvp teamwork is actually helpful. That's why pvp will be always the activity that remains when everything else is gone.
Andr3aZ:
I might add to avv's post:
No shared experience gain, only the killer gets all.
This encouraged last-hitting which is against teamplay, if you don't share the kills equal.
T-888:
--- Quote from: avv on March 29, 2012, 12:17:44 pm ---Farming is also better alone. You get to keep all loot and don't have to wait for anyone.
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Wrong. Farming is much faster together and i don't mean farming like run around with some buddy and shoot npc's or do quests , that's ridiculous. But to actually farm stuff individually , that is used by all team members and each member farms something. When there were players whining on forum about how hard is to get some stupid ore , i couldn't figure out what i could get because everything was farmed , stockpiled and ready to start a fucking war.
Quests are done faster with actual people too , not dual logs , but players who actually does the same thing to finish it faster - teamwork.
Base can be bought much faster and comfortable with players around you , as well gaining resources to buy/build that base is faster together , now there's only trust issues if they get over that , no dual logs needed.
About these dual logs , i tested once how much time i need to set up a dual log to get a taxi to transport my character from redding to our main base , then i understud that there's no point of setting up dual log because it's faster to walk by foot if i don't have a car nearby. Same shit with all quests and etc. etc. , it takes time while you prepare all characters( most probably will need to make some new , especially for new players) at one place , unless you do that on a regular basis.
Kelin:
Both avv and T-888 are right at some points. Big tasks are done much more effectively when the whole group gets involved. But when you need to farm one specific item, it's better if every player does it by himself. Example: Farming VC patrols alone is faster than farming in a group. Really T-888, just try it. Farm VC patrols for an hour with 3 friends then farm for another one hour each player alone. You'll see that amount of items will be higher than in the first case :)
TKs-KaBoom:
--- Quote from: Kelin on March 29, 2012, 01:06:06 pm ---Both avv and T-888 are right at some points. Big tasks are done much more effectively when the whole group gets involved. But when you need to farm one specific item, it's better if every player does it by himself. Example: Farming VC patrols alone is faster than farming in a group. Really T-888, just try it. Farm VC patrols for an hour with 3 friends then farm for another one hour each player alone. You'll see that amount of items will be higher than in the first case :)
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And which is more fun? Playing by yourself or interacting with your buddies in epic encounters blasting the shit out of everything. (Encounter sizes do scale depending on number in party)
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