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Turn Based Combat - Action Points
mrbrain30:
@Hects Hakal
"Normal builds are for noobs-you have to have uber perfect alt for everything if you want to do something"
So I have to make a lot of characters to do anything worthwhile in the game? Awesome.
Don't you get it? If we all make perfect characters the whole point of character creation is lost. What is really charming about the Fallout character system is that you can have a very massive amount of variety. Why would you chop down on this and say to everyone "only uber perfect characters worth anything". It's sad. (no offense)
I think after reading some of the tips here I could make a close perfect character. OR I could just ask one of my old friend who I played Fallout Tactics with. He made every each of his characters to be perfect, and what. They weren't even named! Soldier1, soldier2, soldier3, medic1... If you want to play in a world with perfect build people with no flaws, at the end everyone will have the same character!
@falloutdude
"you say this momment between turns. you really dont get the whole point of tb do you? there is no momment between turns ITS NOT RT. the whole point of tb is that you get your turn (no momment between here) and the other person gets there turn you should not get another chance to fire between then because you did not make a good build."
I know what turn based combat is. I think it's you who don't know what possibilities turn based combat holds. What you wrote is a limited, simplyfied version of what turn based combat could really be.
Turn based combat is like what you said. It gives you time to think over your every action, so you could make a good choice. Why do you think I want to gain some kind of advantage over someone? This is for everyone, this is a small change in the system which would not decrease the value of a good character. You too would gain the abbility to act.
Almost forgot:
"Used it to move"
Thank you! And don't even try to say;
"Save it for AC so you won't be hit!"
Cailleach:
I have to agree with Falloutdude on this. TB system won't change and shouldn't. You get your turn with the points you have with no points carrying over to the next turn. It's the same for everyone. It all comes down to the build. The way the character build system is, you have to make certain concessions. If you want to be able to have x trait you have to give up y trait. You can't have one character that does it all. The SPECIAL won't allow it. Thats why so many of us have multiple characters for multiple purposes. We all find ways to work with the system that is place.
codave:
--- Quote from: mrbrain30 on March 17, 2012, 06:33:33 PM ---@Hects Hakal
"Normal builds are for noobs-you have to have uber perfect alt for everything if you want to do something"
So I have to make a lot of characters to do anything worthwhile in the game? Awesome.
Don't you get it? If we all make perfect characters the whole point of character creation is lost.
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What you have to remember is the definition of "Perfect build".
In this game, the perfect build is the one the guy talking the loudest has. Everyone elses build is "shit".
;D
I would like to see them stack, and be cumulative maybe, up to double your actual base AP.
So if you shoot once for 5 AP, and you have 3 left, you can skip. So on your next turn you have 8+3 to use. If you shoot once for 5 AP, 6 AP's roll over for 8+6. This could go until you reach 16 AP, or double your base AP before perks. So if you have 8 AP before all perks, but 10 after 2 action boys, it still counts as 8. I think this would add a lot more strategy into shooting, moving, and planning ahead in battle.
Just a thought.
yoz:
Your suggestion would make dealing 3 big gun bursts or 3 headshots in one turn possible again, which is certain death for pretty much anyone. I don't like your suggestion.
falloutdude:
--- Quote from: yoz on March 18, 2012, 04:04:29 AM ---Your suggestion would make dealing 3 big gun bursts or 3 headshots in one turn possible again, which is certain death for pretty much anyone. I don't like your suggestion.
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yes i forgot to make this point too. 2 burst is hard to live but 3 even the most toughness pyscho ape is fucked.
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