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new anti-fast relog, sleepy characters after login

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JovankaB:

--- Quote from: Andr3aZ on March 01, 2012, 07:56:30 AM ---Please do not kill the current feature for PvEers
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You need fast relog for PvE? SERIOUSLY? How cheap some players can be?
How about taking some challenge instead? :/


--- Quote ---Also gangs with shared chars -> gone as it is right now.
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How so? Shared char is relogged every 2 minutes and must have 100% combat abilities?
What kind of char are you talking about?

Not to mention shared chars is another curse of wasteland, some tiny nerf wouldn't hurt.

HertogJan:

--- Quote from: JovankaB on March 01, 2012, 08:02:17 AM ---Not to mention shared chars is another curse of wasteland, some tiny nerf wouldn't hurt.

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This session stimulates shared characters due to a lot of things:
mining - depleted resources, 1 alt per mine
crafting - blueprints
trading - new system
repairing - new system
sciencing - return depending on skill

Pre-wipe there was much less sharing of characters. Most I've seen of it pre-wipe was for helping someone to get an alt to his private base or taxi alts.

Andr3aZ:
Oh I knew you would react like that if I don't write my point in more detail.

See we have gang-chars for quests for example. Now everybody is doin their thing when one calls to group-questing. Which is very much fun. Now everyone is scattered around the wasteland or is not geared up etc. People moan about waiting for others 15 minutes and stuff. So we just relog to our faction-chars, have fun together with PvE and after that is over, logout, login, back to your personal char. This is fun for players, doesn't hurt anyone and boosts social play. And the best: you can do it anytime and instantly.

Now I can understand we can discuss about the time of CD on relog all day but for most people -> waiting = boring.
Most people > you.

And stop blabbering stuff about me beeing cheap all out of the blue just to defend your point, we are both long enough in this game and we both know that we both want to make it less-exploit and less-cheat ridden. I played through all seasons since 2nd and nobody ever heard any whine from my side regarding game-mechanics. Perma-Death, Mega-Long CD on everything, etc etc - i don't care, I just want to roam the wastes of F1+2 with more than just NPCs.

avv:
The first post should be rephrased so that this sleepyness only concerns combat, or at least combat. Gathering is still open question.

Nice_Boat:
Jovanka, you never were a PvP player, why do you think your solutions are going to make people who have been fighting for 3 years now happy? This sleepyness mechanic is just another timesink that keeps PvP apes from PvPing and makes the game less fun for them. In tactical terms, 2 minutes is just not enough and 10 minutes+ required to make the difference is downright retarded. Same thing really as with drugs a few sessions before - they used to require waiting during the withdrawal period and people complained, now the entire process is smooth and non-intrusive in gameplay terms and everyone is happy. Obviously, I assume that the goal here is making people happy instead of making them butthurt so initiatives like this one are simply counter-productive.

As to the whole alting and multilogging issue - it's the most efficient way to play this game and it's about the only way that keeps you occupied at all times, if you don't want that than the fault is with the game itself, not with the playerbase (who shows basic adaptation skills by using those techniques). Waging a guerilla war on the large part of the community is not going to do anything good, but you just seem to never learn. I mean, name one positive thing about implementing the numerous timesinks and running witch hunts that happened in the last few years, because the only result I've seen was people getting irritated and/or quitting, which in turn resulted in a very limited playerbase we have now. So yeah, shouldn't you be doing something useful like creating content for non-PvP oriented people (there used to be a lot, now there's almost none) instead of forcing yourself onto lads who generally are quite content with how things are?

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