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Changelog 04/02/2012

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Floodnik:

--- Quote from: Michaelh139 on February 06, 2012, 12:35:08 pm ---(...) the thing was ovepowered as hell.  (...) necessary for change.  For a good reason.

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That's still a matter of opinion, your truth is not the only truth here ;)


--- Quote ---Where did I say that?
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That's obvious. By using the 15+ page thread argument, you automatically assumed that I created my build after the thread was created. Because otherwise the argument wouldn't make sense(and it doesn't, since you assumed incorrectly).

But anyway. Everyone can express his opinion, so can I, that's why I made the complaint. The truth is, my time got wasted. What if you had(if you don't) a BG character, and then, let's say, Big Guns skill gets removed? Wouldn't you complain? Because, personally, I think it's a little overpowered comparing to those snipers/plasmers, or especially SG bursters that do no damage at all(30hp bursts, haha).

They could nerf Silent Death bursts. I would be totally for the nerfing, since my character would be still playable - harder, but still fun. Not complete removal of the feature. Never.

Michaelh139:

--- Quote from: Floodnik on February 06, 2012, 12:44:44 pm ---That's still a matter of opinion, your truth is not the only truth here ;)
That's obvious. By using the 15+ page thread argument, you automatically assumed that I created my build after the thread was created. Because otherwise the argument wouldn't make sense(and it doesn't, since you assumed incorrectly).
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it makes sense either way, and the way, where you already have lvl 24, is that you should've assumed yourself there was going to be change, and prepared yourself for it.  But it's clear you didn't.

--- Quote ---But anyway. Everyone can express his opinion, so can I, that's why I made the complaint. The truth is, my time got wasted. What if you had(if you don't) a BG character, and then, let's say, Big Guns skill gets removed? Wouldn't you complain? Because, personally, I think it's a little overpowered comparing to those snipers/plasmers, or especially SG bursters that do no damage at all(30hp bursts, haha).
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Didn't say you couldn't express your opinion.
They didn't completely remove anything as well.

--- Quote ---They could nerf Silent Death bursts. I would be totally for the nerfing, since my character would be still playable - harder, but still fun. Not complete removal of the feature. Never.

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wasn't completely removed.   They completely removed the use for bursting (consequently at the moment all guns with the smg sprite) and you can still use pistols, and later on, 223 and 14mm once it gets fixed, which will kick alot of ass still.

Your crying over spilled milk when there's still 3/4 a gallon in the jug.

(even if your a silent death burster build and nothing else 14mm and 223 pistols will more than make up for that, and assuming you have 3x brd, you will have +7 damage!  Multiply it by however much from criticals and its a decent boost, and you'll always get crit from back with or without aim. :P

T-888:
SD working on smg's was a bug , it got fixed. Deal with it.

http://clip2net.com/s/1yVZ8

I reported that , everyone had a chance to plan ahead and test it , too powerful so i planned ahead. That was very early in CBT.

Floodnik:

--- Quote from: Michaelh139 on February 06, 2012, 12:49:22 pm --- it makes sense either way, and the way, where you already have lvl 24, is that you should've assumed yourself there was going to be change, and prepared yourself for it. 

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The damage was already done.  I could just hopelessly play my burster and get all the fun i could before, you know, it became useless.


--- Quote ---(even if your a silent death burster build and nothing else 14mm and 223 pistols will more than make up for that, and assuming you have 3x brd, you will have +7 damage!  Multiply it by however much from criticals and its a decent boost, and you'll always get crit from back with or without aim. :P
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Great.


--- Quote from: T-888 on February 06, 2012, 01:58:50 pm ---SD working on smg's was a bug , it got fixed. Deal with it.

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I already did. But I'm complaining because I didn't know it was a bug(only few participated in CBT), didn't know it's going to be fixed, made a SD burster. As I said, I have the right to complain.

JovankaB:

--- Quote from: Floodnik on February 06, 2012, 03:48:15 pm ---The damage was already done.  I could just hopelessly play my burster and get all the fun i could before, you know, it became useless.
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I don't buy that you couldn't predict the possibility of the nerf.

Choosing to take a novelty build - invisible bluesuit that can do 500+ damage with
cheapest SMG should bell a ring for experienced player like you. You traded the joy
of having OP character for the risk of having it nerfed eventually. It was your choice.
You can always play in a smart way and avoid builds that look borked.

It's a "beta" (more like alpha, but whatever - the point is, it's not finished game).
Changes are part of the development process. And yes, the changes can be painful.
I understand why you are upset, but I think everyone who has been playing for
some time experienced the same thing, many times. Otherwise, how would devs
know that builds aren't balanced properly? ::)

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