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Author Topic: HtH Fighters screwed as never before  (Read 7829 times)

Re: HtH Fighters screwed as never before
« Reply #45 on: January 10, 2012, 07:42:54 pm »

For me everything seems fine, sure as long as you have 10 STR and heavy handed it may seem overpowered but Stonewall is the answer for this!
As for HtH Evade I think it shouldn't work when standing in place, In Your Face is enough! However HtH Evade should work when melee or unarmed weapons are equipped!

Apart from that HtH is fine for now, finally you can run-target your enemies!

Wait, run-target? How do you do that? regular targeting doesn't seem to work.
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Re: HtH Fighters screwed as never before
« Reply #46 on: January 10, 2012, 08:19:15 pm »

1v1 200 AC ninjas with in your face will defeat moast of enemyes

for example, snipers, i can run with my -200 chance to be hited up in the front of the sniper and let in your face do it's job till i kill him
other example, bursters, same shit, longer combat

trowers allready have to stay far to avoid FF

EW like snipers

and against other HtH, well, an interesting fight


Care to share you build?
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Re: HtH Fighters screwed as never before
« Reply #47 on: January 10, 2012, 08:39:28 pm »

Wait, run-target? How do you do that? regular targeting doesn't seem to work.

You can change in Config to "alway run" option.
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Re: HtH Fighters screwed as never before
« Reply #48 on: January 10, 2012, 08:46:40 pm »


Care to share you build?

You can play around with the planner. there are 4 perks which add a direct 120. there is a perk which doubles the AC from your agility (a potential extra +30) and kamikaze adds +40 AC I believe. and then there is afcoarse your starting AC. assuming you have 10 agility. you get a nice 30AC to start with.

All this ends up to a nice AC of 220.

Either way. I'm currently rather confused about a rather important matter. Whetever AC is capped at 90 or not. because everything might matter very little if there is a 90 ac cap.
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Re: HtH Fighters screwed as never before
« Reply #49 on: January 10, 2012, 08:55:35 pm »

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Whetever AC is capped at 90 or not. because everything might matter very little if there is a 90 ac cap.

It is, but hopefully will be fixed.
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Re: HtH Fighters screwed as never before
« Reply #50 on: January 10, 2012, 11:42:40 pm »

It is, but hopefully will be fixed.
I hope it will be soon, not "soon" :D

@GroeneAppel- 220 AC How exactly. I think 180 is max. 10 AG*3*2(livewire)+40(kamikaze)+40(dodger+)+40(hthevade+)=180

I dont think Dodger and Dodger+ would stack, or will they? Could you answer Solar?
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Re: HtH Fighters screwed as never before
« Reply #51 on: January 10, 2012, 11:56:58 pm »

They will
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Re: HtH Fighters screwed as never before
« Reply #52 on: January 11, 2012, 12:05:33 am »

As far as i know AC is caped at 90.
You cant have more.
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Re: HtH Fighters screwed as never before
« Reply #53 on: January 11, 2012, 12:10:23 am »

DocAN yeah i have noticed it :) but Solar said the will remove cap "soon"

220 AC is a lot. Big number. We shall see if it works properly.

And a question to a almighty DEV Solar.
Will it be possible for HtH Evade Perk to work when wielding melee or unarmed weapon?
« Last Edit: January 11, 2012, 12:12:33 am by Kharaam »
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Re: HtH Fighters screwed as never before
« Reply #54 on: January 11, 2012, 12:17:26 am »

Yup
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Re: HtH Fighters screwed as never before
« Reply #55 on: January 11, 2012, 12:43:59 am »

Removing cap from AC would be great in my opinion, just because it adds another unique build to the world :) Seeing everyone as Sniper or BG was really boring.
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Re: HtH Fighters screwed as never before
« Reply #56 on: January 11, 2012, 01:15:14 am »

Removing cap from AC would be great in my opinion, just because it adds another unique build to the world :) Seeing everyone as Sniper or BG was really boring.

Yeah, but I think we all gonna be bored of max AC jinxed trolls pretty soon.
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Re: HtH Fighters screwed as never before
« Reply #57 on: January 11, 2012, 01:43:10 am »

Yeah, but I think we all gonna be bored of max AC jinxed trolls pretty soon.

I did some tests yesterday with a Jinxed/90 AC char and it was really harsh for my ennemies to shoot me (some of them were high-level).
If you remove the cap of AC higher, we gonna have trolls with all unarmed perks in bluesuits running everywhere. We will not be able to shoot them when they will be at 1 hex of us (with the perks In Your Face!), and we will not be able to shoot them when they will be at 15+ hex.
So, in 2 weeks there will be a swarm of unarmed bluesuits running everywhere just for LOL U NOOB U CANT SHOOT ME.
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Re: HtH Fighters screwed as never before
« Reply #58 on: January 11, 2012, 01:44:32 am »

put more into % - combat skill I guess.
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Re: HtH Fighters screwed as never before
« Reply #59 on: January 11, 2012, 02:00:28 am »

Put more skills points ? That is unfair.

Then, in a side we have basic characters who need to put more than 220 skill points in their weapon skill, have gun and armor to be efficient, and in an other side we have HtH characters who are efficient without any stuff.

HtH characters dont need to craft, pex and farm for free, never loose any stuff, and now they are a kind of mix between Neo from Matrix and Ninja.

Seriously, fallout is Madmax, not Dragon Ball Z.
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