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[Shonsu]

you're still so angry. Relax a little.

p.s. my faction is allied with yours lol

[gr1m099]

I rage but I don't quit

[avv]

But I attempt to try to have a very neutral point of view, and I am as everyone knows a "PKer", though terminology like this has pretty much officially been cast aside thank god.  And when you said what I quoted, it felt directed at me, and I have a problem with the "goes around comes around" concept, because it just isn't true.

Surely wasn't directed to you but generally to people who are looking for troubble and mess with others. Goes around and comes around is true because if you go look for troubble, you will find it. But you can't always regulate or predict it. The idea doesn't outrule the fact that people who don't deserve shit get it because the whole idea is about those who make other people's life shitty. When someone gets what he didn't ask for, that's when "Shit happens" saying kicks in.

[Kelin]

I've already written several pages about how stupid anti-pk term is. Not to mention a classic APK paradox "you were seen with PKs, you are their friend now you have to die" which means anti-PKs actually shoot innocent people as well (though they have another reason than lulz).

Even funnier is a situation when two guys, one kills another and heroic APK spawns and kills this remaining guy in the name of peace and justice. Too bad nobody told this APK that the guy who died first was actually a bad guy (baseraper for example). See? Another paradox.

On the other hand I feel that there are at least two groups of players, some who never hesitate to shoot an unknown guy with low hp and some who still believe that a guy might be new in game and needs help instead of one-hex bursting. If you talk to some "APKs" they speak about themselves as they were something special and they very often despise all PKs. That's the problem with these guys, that's why Gr1m is raging here in this topic.

Calling a faction APK is uber bullshit. During my FOnline career I was a part of many factions (as an ally) and I can honestly say that in each faction there are people from both groups. Secret chars specially dedicated for PKing are not exceptional in "APK factions". No one will ever know.

This RP shouting "xyz for great justice" etc. is for PKs equally uncomfortable as *shit in mouth* for APKs. In the first case PK thinks about APKs they are idiots whereas in the second case APK thinks about PKs they are idiots. I don't like either one, but that's not the case. What I want to say is that we are all just players and should tolerate and respect each other.

So yes, I understand your rage Gr1m but try to relax it's only a game, nothing more nothing less.

[Jackall]

What I want to say is that we are all just players and should tolerate and respect each other.

Ghandi mode on?

By the way, I can see wisdom in your words young Jedi.

[gr1m099]

I try to relax and stay calm but this game has just done too much damage for me to relax. Only reason why I went off was because brick mention I sprayed him when he was bluesuit in broken hills and it just reminded me how TTTLA are dickwads to me when I go to redding, even if I talk to them and ask nicely if I can mine and mind my own business and try to stay around and chat they shoot me on sight tell me to go get them hq ore/minerals and pull their stupid justice crap on me.

But its not a big deal, I can mine in broken hills and I really don't need to do any mining these days as I have enough stuff to last me a few pvp fights. Plus I have plenty of alts they don't know about if I ever needed to go to redding.

But you know its probably what I should have expected. Anti-pk factions like TTTLA wonder why everybody hates them and spits on them when they go tell people to go get them ores and minerals and tell them to go play firing squad. Or maybe its just that one particular member who is a jackass I don't know.

You know in all honestly why I can't stand this justice crap, its because its like getting pulled over by that jackass cop who thinks its funny that he is giving you a ticket chewing bubble gum with a smirk on his face, you can just feel that sick pleasure he is getting out of catching you and you have to be respectful towards him and really wish you could tell him to fuck off. Deep down inside you are pissed off you have to pay a $500 dollar ticket. And in all honestly that is how I feel because that is what they are role playing.

But you know maybe AVV is right I don't really believe that being good brings good things, I mean alot of people who all the nice things in life aren't very good people. But you know during this particular time when I asked if I could mine redding when section8 was trolling gecko mine and chosen soldiers held bhh, .slaz was being a dickwad with his get me ores and go play firing squad and I gave him a piece of brahmin shit, he sprayed me, then somebody from C88 sprayed him so maybe there is some truth to what AVV has to say I don't know.

But you know if I ever catch .slaz in BHH I well kill him, science his gear and spit on him but he wouldn't have the balls to come without all his faction buddies.

Oh and I just have to add, I got treated like this when me and couple of guys I played to ask if we could join them action and help take the town from Samartians because we were pissed they raided broken hills with rogues. And during times when there was an uneasy truce that TTTLA would help BHH if it came under attack.

[Jackall]

Like you said is a RP. I actually think that is quite effective due to the fact that justice in the wasteland must be harsh too. Remind the Boneyard's Regulators? 

The non-Lawyers usually let you mine.

[gr1m099]

I took the side of overthrowing the regulators because I thought they were oppressive

[Jackall]

See? There are no PVPers. We are all roleplayers in real, just maybe not hardcorse ones.

[gr1m099]

Not to be an ass, but I've probably already made an ass of myself as is with all my rage but what does doing a quest I did in fallout1 like 10-11 years ago have to do with roleplaying and not being a PvPer?

I don't want to roleplay outlaw. I role play mercenary, I go fight where there is a fight to be fought. If you put it in role play perspective. I just play the game click buttons watch a sledgehammer swing and watch my character shoot don't really pretend anything when I play the game. I click, I watch, I laugh, rage, type messages to people that appear over my characters head. I'm a horrible role player. I generally don't pretend I'm the character I'm playing, I usually give it a name I commonly use, or a reference to something, or try to think of something funny.

I don't think of shooting NPCs as shooting an actual person when I farm, I just see it as an object it gives me something when I click on it and shoot that I need for money or a weapon.

[Crazy]

I just play the game click buttons watch a sledgehammer swing and watch my character shoot don't really pretend anything when I play the game. I click, I watch, I laugh, rage, type messages to people that appear over my characters head. I'm a horrible role player. I generally don't pretend I'm the character I'm playing, I usually give it a name I commonly use, or a reference to something, or try to think of something funny.

That's exactly why you rage so much about slaz and everyone else. You think they are talking to you. They're not. They talk to your character.

[gr1m099]

Well of course you're going to defend your friend. Ask Brick how it feels to go into town blue suit to come and visit chat when no PvP action and getting shot, or having somebody tell you to go mine hq ores and minerals for them and go up against the wall to be shot, when I talked to one of your Children of Anus alliance leaders they say no problem you can go mine. Then .slaz stupid shit roleplay. And you guys also pulled that shit on me after helping you guys take the town from samartians. That is why I am not happy, I don't care if its roleplay.

But you know what should I expect from hypocritical faction like yours. Stupid on my part but still that is why I do not like you guys and it makes very happy to shoot your faction members dead more so than other factions. And I celebrate when your faction loses.

Anti-pk is a joke and what people think what it is as being good, I still think its stupid term, and you guys are not honorable in the least bit you do not represent what justice really is. If anything I see your "roleplay" as corruption. I see you as the cops/police/authority who cause riots in various countries because of police shootings.

[Crazy]

Well, like I won't waste more time to talk to a deaf, impolite, raging and unattainable to reason kid, I will only point out that TTTLA never claimed to be anti-PK and let you rage without me.

[gr1m099]

And I am not going to be nice to a faction who have been assholes to me and believe everything is right and justified and call it "justice".

This is why I cannot stand your faction you guys are very arrogant. And you guys almost act like you are brainwashed into your views.

You are only allied with crazy 88 the international anti-pk faction, Children of Anus the anti-pk alliance faction LOL.

But still, can we agree to disagree on our views, we are opposing factions, and its best if everybody just call themselves PvP faction regardless if they believe shooting random people or not.

[A concerned wastelander]

And you guys almost act like you are brainwashed into your views.

You mean they dont roleplay fanatics, but are real life fanatics about justice in MMORPGs?!? Hope your wrong.