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Different abilities for different races
Crazy:
--- Quote from: Graf on August 15, 2011, 11:06:18 AM ---Well, it's a good idea, though ghouls are not simply irradiated humans. They've got influenced by the FEV, just as muties did.
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In fact, it have been said both by original fallout developpers that is was "only rads" and "rads+FEV". So both versions exists.
--- Quote ---There is some controversy, even among the makers of Fallout games, about the origins of ghouls. While Tim Cain said explicitly that ghouls are only a result of radiation, consistent with an understanding of the science of radiation as it stood during the 1950s, Chris Taylor said that a mix of both radiation and FEV was involved. While Chris Avellone initially supported the latter view in his Fallout Bible, he was later convinced to support the radiation-only version. Some people believe that ghouls were formed when the bombs fell, people who where not fortunate enough to be in a vault or die were exposed to the radiation and became ghouls.
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http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Ghouls
Graf:
--- Quote from: Surf on August 15, 2011, 03:56:16 PM ---wat
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Wat? No idea what it could mean. But if you're asking for proof that way, then here's is it:
--- Quote from: The Vault, link=http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Ghoul ---Chris Taylor said that a mix of both radiation and FEV was involved. While Chris Avellone initially supported the latter view in his Fallout Bible he was later convinced to support the radiation-only version.
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I believe that the earlier version was more correct, becuase it was quite clear stated on a few holotapes in original games. Too lazy too search for them though.
Surf:
--- Quote from: Graf on August 15, 2011, 07:16:45 PM ---While Chris Avellone initially supported the latter view in his Fallout Bible he was later convinced to support the radiation-only version.
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We only support the final FO bible version , thus the quoted one. Besides that, the other version doesn't even make sense for most of the ghouls ( Necropolis ones f.e.) as they've never been dipped and still are ghouls.
Harold is a special mention, as he is not really a ghoul, he is the mere product of the dipping in the vats. So this is the other example Crazy has mentionend. :)
Grommok:
Really, since F.E.V. isnt transmitted by air, how could them be a mix a rads and F.E.V.? They must have all be inoculated, or dipped.
Luther Blissett:
The Fallout Wikia stuff (which I believe generally comes from Fallout Bible info) does actually mention F.E.V being transmitted by air :
"[...]who had suffered from nuclear radiation and airborne FEV exposure for decades[...]"
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Pan-Immunity_Virion_Project
Ultimately, various sources from different places or time periods have slightly different answers. Probably one of those things which was never settled on "back in the day", and when different sets of designers and writers worked on it, things changed a little (as Crazy mentioned).
As mentioned already, I believe the final version was :
a) Ghouls are caused by radiation only - though it's also mentioned that all life on Earth (except for people sealed in Vaults or BOS etc) has received a mild influence from FEV exposure, so technically FEV is "sort of involved".
b) Harold isn't actually a ghoul. He used a ghoul sprite, and hangs around with ghouls in FO2, but he's technically a mutant. He's unique.
Anyway, it's pretty much besides the point. If races are selectable from the start, it doesn't matter. If the suggestion of being able to change race during gameplay is implemented, then the 2238 developers can probably pick whichever one they want, and 50% of people will call them awesome and 50% will call them idiots :D
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