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Gathering after wipe
Bartosz:
What can change the nature of the man?
I really see no possibility for this discussion to end - some are stating that they are doing what they are doing because game mechanics are like they are, and some are stating that they just do not like such approach. Everything is fine - everyone has own opinion on that.
Though the problem is still unsolved, yet I'm unsure if it can be solved as easily as some of you are stating ('just remove damned waiting!').
Johnnybravo:
Well here's something from my POV:
Currently gathering is indeed boring and irritating if you try to do anything better alone, as there's little you can do with your own resources unless you wait a lot.
I've got no problem with the existence of cooldown, but time frame you have to wait is very unlucky - too little to complete another job and too long to just wait it on place.
Was it up to hour it'd be little problem for one to deal with it, even if you could mine only little more resources than in current 20min frame.
With the stuff you create, travelling speeds, etc, you really feel sorry for yourself by not just buying it (Laser Pistol costs 340 fully charged, creating empty one costs you minning for metal parts, alloys and venturing for electronic parts - all of this takes much longer than just shoveling shit for one.)
BUT
That's for doing it ALONE in MULTIPLAYER game.
There's little problem with anything mentioned above, as you can choose good strategy, have multiple friends do one action to accumulate resources and then you can just craft.
There are absolutely no restrictions except for carry weight for gathering, and that makes stuff easy.
If anything items were so much spread that nobody was interested in gathering anymore. Not saying crafting was easy, but economics still resulted in item overflow.
If anything I'd love to know about crafting facilities, as that's what really sets pace of item obtaining and the difficulty of doing so (hello MFCs noteverworthtobecrafted), for gathering just get more gatherer friends.
-danger-:
hmm.... I don't like the mugging. If I say that, can there be like a 20 year cool down? When I mine, I eventualy cap hit the cooldown max and then I start to multi-task. I come back to see all my work is gone.. and some jerk running away with a grin. :'(
same goes with ugly PKers... but 1 step at a time ;D
Catoptromancy:
I have 300 repair and have the same cooldown as someone with 20 repair. There should be a skill based balanced similar to first aid.
On gathering I have thought about using current stats to adjust how things are gathered. Something like if ST is 7+ you will get 2 ores, ST 10 will get 3. Along with a high EN that will add a lower amount of gathering time added per item. Outdoors could raise the cooldown time limit.
Reginmund:
--- Quote from: Catoptromancy on August 03, 2011, 02:46:40 AM ---I have 300 repair and have the same cooldown as someone with 20 repair. There should be a skill based balanced similar to first aid.
On gathering I have thought about using current stats to adjust how things are gathered. Something like if ST is 7+ you will get 2 ores, ST 10 will get 3. Along with a high EN that will add a lower amount of gathering time added per item. Outdoors could raise the cooldown time limit.
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sounds like another min maxed alt which isn't exactly the sought after answer. What we can do is wait and see how the crafting system has changed so that we can judged whether or not the gathering cooldown problem still applies. iirc tier 3 will involve schematics but will it be as simple as obtain it once and remember how to make ca, ba, camk2 from then on out or will it be required each time? and will you be able to stay safe in faction base and craft away with not a care in the world in the simple workbench (or will there be special facilities linked with domination mode or dungeons created or simply making sierra or mariposa more attractive places)?
gathering may be a bitch but it ultimately leads to crafting and what about their cooldowns? oh wait i remember... alts alts alts, fast relog, multilogging etc...
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