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Author Topic: Class or race system for next age.....  (Read 2121 times)

Class or race system for next age.....
« on: July 13, 2011, 12:56:25 am »

I'm sure that this topic has been brought up before, but i was curious to know if it was going to ever be implemented such as that of fallout tactics (mutants,dogs,bots,ghouls,humans,etc...) Seeing as how GM's change skins for others i don't see why this feature couldn't be implemented even if its only an "appearance" difference. As of right now all you can do is play chicks instead of dudes which is rather boring.
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Re: Class or race system for next age.....
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2011, 01:06:54 am »

It's not "just look", most of skins remove ability to use many weapons (due to lack of animations), wearing armor and in few cases reduce general character speed. Until you have/know where to find missing animation sets, this suggestion have chances to be included close to zero.

<put "wait-for-3d" sentence here>

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Re: Class or race system for next age.....
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2011, 01:18:11 am »

cool this was much more informative than our IRC discussion to which you said you knew nothing about it ;p.
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Re: Class or race system for next age.....
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2011, 01:29:18 am »

cool this was much more informative than our IRC discussion to which you said you knew nothing about it ;p.

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[12.07.11 21:33] < duder__> wipe what's up with those mutant skins?
[12.07.11 21:34] < Wipe> i know nothing about skins

I tho you ask about skins currently given to players, and in this case answer is still valid :)
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Re: Class or race system for next age.....
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2011, 03:40:08 am »

I'm sure that this topic has been brought up before, but i was curious to know if it was going to ever be implemented such as that of fallout tactics (mutants,dogs,bots,ghouls,humans,etc...) Seeing as how GM's change skins for others i don't see why this feature couldn't be implemented even if its only an "appearance" difference. As of right now all you can do is play chicks instead of dudes which is rather boring.

lol gms aren't there to give out skins like candy anyway, typical population's response to seeing a gm is "gimme xx skin!!". those who do get them and are unlucky/lucky enough to keep it have to deal with their drawbacks, most likely the inability to wear armor, restricted use of weaponry (in one or two cases, maybe more no weapons possible at all).
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Re: Class or race system for next age.....
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2011, 11:08:04 am »

If you wear armor, there is no drawbacks from having a skin. Example - model of afrowastelander in metal armor can't run, but while wearing a jacket, it changes to regular jacket guy and can run and use every weapon.

I still missing leather jacket skin as my default. Good ol' trollfest days in Modoc ...
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Re: Class or race system for next age.....
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2011, 10:09:28 pm »

Lack of animation is a false problem.
These char could have advantages that counter these.
(or, for rats or ants, just be taken for RP purpose)
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Re: Class or race system for next age.....
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2011, 10:27:52 pm »

those who do get them and are unlucky/lucky enough to keep it have to deal with their drawbacks, most likely the inability to wear armor, restricted use of weaponry (in one or two cases, maybe more no weapons possible at all).

People saying that always made me laugh, as you just have to go to the closest barber to get a normal skin if the drawback are too annoying. Never understood what the fuck was the probem to do a NPC giving all humans skins, even if it can't use everything, as you can just switch back if ya want.
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Re: Class or race system for next age.....
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2011, 04:49:39 am »

People saying that always made me laugh, as you just have to go to the closest barber to get a normal skin if the drawback are too annoying. Never understood what the fuck was the probem to do a NPC giving all humans skins, even if it can't use everything, as you can just switch back if ya want.

well im under the impression the barber thing wont work with a female character so yeah i guess i did overlook that point.
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Re: Class or race system for next age.....
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2011, 06:53:11 am »

This is a GREAT idea! i would like to see more then just appearance(skin) as only difference between races aswell. The different races should get different special bonuses/weakness too!  For example, mutant race could have a bonus to STR, but a penalty on INT, and can only use BG or EW.   Humans of course jack of all trades, neutral special, and use all weapons. Ghouls could get a bonus to luck or PE, and only use small guns. I would love to see races implemented, would be great, add allot of variety/replay value to the game, and just make things more interesting in general.

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Re: Class or race system for next age.....
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2011, 02:32:17 am »

Races based on Tactics ones should be implented long time ago. Lack of animations for all guns is the worst excuse ever and should be forgotten already.
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Re: Class or race system for next age.....
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2011, 01:26:40 pm »

Its not so much that, its that they can't run.

When 3d rolls around then we can have races and different specials etc.
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Re: Class or race system for next age.....
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2011, 02:52:19 pm »

Its not so much that, its that they can't run.

When 3d rolls around then we can have races and different specials etc.
Why does it matter that they can't run? Just warn a player before he chooses to play as ghoul: you can't run, you can't use specific weapons, blah, blah. People can make choices themselves and take the consequences.
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Re: Class or race system for next age.....
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2011, 03:22:56 pm »

Why does it matter that they can't run? Just warn a player before he chooses to play as ghoul: you can't run, you can't use specific weapons, blah, blah. People can make choices themselves and take the consequences.

what you will see is people then going on to suggest something to make them move faster as a sort of run. you can see it now, suggestion subject: faster ghoul movement

"blah blah, it moves too slow i want to rp on that character but not be limited by it blah blah. one or two ways it might be possible or no real suggestion at all (i want this done but haven't thought of a way) e.g. as topic says (my work here is done i hope devs/players like it attitude)."

<insert positive/negative feedback>

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Re: Class or race system for next age.....
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2011, 08:12:00 pm »

I once seen a 2x speed ghoul and it was quite irritating the animation looked strange that way I'm sure that quite a lot of player would do what Reginmund said go around asking to make the movement faster. 3D will solve a lot of thing it would even make running possible for ghouls and mutants man they could even get to use more weapons. I always found it strange that muties can't use knives and clubs and ghouls (normal ones) can't use smgs and pistols.
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