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How many levels of the lifegiver perk would you say you give you're characters on average

2 (whats the point of only using 1?)
1.5 (half my chars have 1 and the other half have 2)
1 (It helps but 2 isn't really essential)
none (it's a wasted perk!)

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Author Topic: do you use lifegiver?  (Read 3153 times)

jonny rust

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Re: do you use lifegiver?
« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2011, 02:42:39 am »


from this poll so far just as many people have said they use 1 lvl of LG as have said they use 2. perhaps limiting it to one level would be a good compromise.
« Last Edit: June 12, 2011, 02:46:55 am by jonny rust »
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Re: do you use lifegiver?
« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2011, 03:27:59 am »

you need to raise hp pool.


Sounds like a plan!
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Re: do you use lifegiver?
« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2011, 07:39:50 am »

Lifegiver from 12 gives you 40 hp total
Lifegiver from 15 gives you 28 hp total

2 EN gives you 24 hp

Lifegiver from 15 lvl is equal to 2 points of SPECIAL

Action boy gives you 1 AP
2 Agility gives you 1 AP
Action Boy = 2 SPECIAL

Weapon Handling gives you 3 SPECIAL, but in fact reduce your carry weight, with small frame it's a pain.

Sharpshooter gives 1 SPECIAL for BG and tanks and 0.5 SPECIAL for snipers, +2 sight range isn't a deal


Gains are totaly useless, it for example, Gain Agility gives you +0.5 AP and +2/4% skill and +1% dodge, compared to action boys, which gives you +1 ap, GA it's a crap.


To make fair Lifegiver, it should have 15 lvl req or gives hp based on your EN, so for 4 EN sniper, it wouldn't gives much like for 10 EN tank
(maybe formula EN/2)
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Re: do you use lifegiver?
« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2011, 08:59:03 am »

Also I dont agree that powerbuilds have low INT, almost every powerbuild uses BROF, which requires 6 int, thus everyone sets INT to 6.
Strange I always thought that powerbuilds have 2x lifegiver and 220-250 hp (these rarely have IN 6). It's new for me that every average druggy PvP build with CH 1 can be called "powerbuild".
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Re: do you use lifegiver?
« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2011, 02:01:25 pm »

Strange I always thought that powerbuilds have 2x lifegiver and 220-250 hp (these rarely have IN 6). It's new for me that every average druggy PvP build with CH 1 can be called "powerbuild".

A sniper with 220-250hp and 2x livegiver is very far from a powerbuild...

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Sharpshooter gives 1 SPECIAL for BG and tanks and 0.5 SPECIAL for snipers, +2 sight range isn't a deal
Huge bullshit, sharpshooter is a must for a sniper, the +1PEis more useful for sniper than for BG, and +2 sight range is totally a must for a sniper if you don't want to end up slaughtered against all others snipers.


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To make fair Lifegiver, it should have 15 lvl req or gives hp based on your EN, so for 4 EN sniper, it wouldn't gives much like for 10 EN tank
(maybe formula EN/2)
Solar said Livegiver will be reworked an will give a fixed HP amount. What's the point to keep talk about a balance when it's already redone, but we don't know it yet?
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Re: do you use lifegiver?
« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2011, 04:53:50 pm »

Strange I always thought that powerbuilds have 2x lifegiver and 220-250 hp (these rarely have IN 6). It's new for me that every average druggy PvP build with CH 1 can be called "powerbuild".
I was speaking about BROF, which almost every build takes, and thats why every character that wants to take BROF needs 6 IN.
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Re: do you use lifegiver?
« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2011, 06:14:53 pm »

I like BROF, but as for lifegiver I just feel forced taking it.
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Re: do you use lifegiver?
« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2011, 06:48:41 pm »

I like BROF, but as for lifegiver I just feel forced taking it.

exactly! I have a skilled character who is wonderful to play with PvE but because he only gets 5 perks i didn't take lifegiver and now he is completely useless at PVP.

so far this poll is favoring 1 - 1.5  lvl's of lifegiver so why not make it limited to 1 level?

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Re: do you use lifegiver?
« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2011, 07:19:27 pm »

...every character that wants to take BROF needs 6 IN.
I see, of course that is true.
I like BROF, but as for lifegiver I just feel forced taking it.
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exactly! I have a skilled character who is wonderful to play with PvE but because he only gets 5 perks i didn't take lifegiver and now he is completely useless at PVP.
Nobody "force" you to take lifegiver. I have characters without lifegiver and I use them in PvP (even TC) and I know skilled builds with or without lifegiver used in PvP as well. If your character is bad in PvP means it's simply not suited for PvP fights.
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Re: do you use lifegiver?
« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2011, 07:21:14 pm »

Of course I take fucking lifegiver who doesn't?  ;)
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