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Author Topic: What is on with all these russians?  (Read 8098 times)

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Re: What is on with all these russians?
« Reply #30 on: February 07, 2010, 10:27:20 pm »

The only thing that is bothering me is the lack of a common launguage.  You go to NCR: people speak polish, russian(mostly) and even swedish.

Where the heck are the swedish people.. I havnt heard them :( I want to talk to them a bit.

btw.   where can i get a new  guns and bullets magazine. Some fuck stole it from me.

Go to the hub, there is a bookshop there that sells the magazine, dont know the actual prize but you can afford anything there if you bring 1k caps.
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Re: What is on with all these russians?
« Reply #31 on: February 07, 2010, 11:38:22 pm »

Non english speakers should stick to TLA.
Man, Hitler was little harmless girl in comparison with you. You know who Hitler really was, don't you?

I can understand anger because of being killed by "cyryllic names" or "f..king pollacks", but my char have been killed by both of them many times, and still I can't say that all Russians are crazy assholes with miniguns, because they just aren't. I don't understand anything written with cyryllic, but also I don't know French, Swedish, Chinese, Spanish and more. I'm native Polish, with little understanding of Czech, little more understanding of English and German, and that's it. Now you want to force me to use non-native language everywhere in public places, because ... Why actually? Kind of "nur für Deutsche" again? "Dogs and Poles are not allowed to enter"? Don't you see how dangerous these ideas are?
English is international and "Internet" language, and if I want to interact with english-speakers, it is my own business to learn it. If you can't understand Polish and interact with me - well, screw me, my loss. So many players, no matter where are they from, can speak english very well, much better than me (it isn't that difficult by the way ;-)). You didn't notice them, or you just didn't want to notice?
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Re: What is on with all these russians?
« Reply #32 on: February 08, 2010, 02:31:52 am »

Man, Hitler was little harmless girl in comparison with you. You know who Hitler really was, don't you?

You've lost.
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Re: What is on with all these russians?
« Reply #33 on: February 08, 2010, 05:10:48 am »

In your face hitler, 11 million people dying is nothing compared to me not wanting to share a server with people who don't speak the language the game is in. Time to go back to art school.
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Re: What is on with all these russians?
« Reply #34 on: February 08, 2010, 06:17:30 am »

What if I like this server, and don't want to play on TLA?
I use english language when speak to people who doesn't understand russian. But if I want to speak to russian-speaking people, why I can't use cyrillic?
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Re: What is on with all these russians?
« Reply #35 on: February 08, 2010, 11:22:57 am »

While we encourage people to use English on our server, we really don't want to force it's use by banning all others. No one can expect that someone would learn English in order to play (although playing can be an opportunity to learn), and placing such a barrier is just too much for a game that is supposedly open for everyone.

As for the question why only the Cyrillic charset is supported (besides the Latin one), the answer is simple: the game originated in the Cyrillic-using world, for the most part it was exclusively developed by the Cyrillic users, and was played by them. Cvet himself, the engine developer, is a Belorussian. Cyrillic support was natural. Disabling it in chat would change nothing - except, perhaps, some Russian/Belorussian/etc. players would feel muted, while others will simply use translit, and will be equally incomprehensible.

Disabling the Cyrillic nicknames is, however, another thing. There are few features, with prospects for more, that require players to write other players' nicknames. Simple lack of knowledge about the Cyrillic keyboard layout can be an obstacle. This will be given more thought in future, but I can't say at this moment when, and what the outcome will be. And this is an honest "no idea" spoken here.
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Re: What is on with all these russians?
« Reply #36 on: February 08, 2010, 12:19:57 pm »

The worse problem is that I cant rememember the cyrillic names. All looks same for me...
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Re: What is on with all these russians?
« Reply #37 on: February 08, 2010, 04:02:34 pm »

In your face hitler, 11 million people dying is nothing compared to me not wanting to share a server with people who don't speak the language the game is in. Time to go back to art school.
I meant some specific way of thinking, not body count. Luckily, server does not belong to you only.

My friend gave me yesterday some idea to order so many languages: user can define in Config, what language he wants to speak in game, and only those who defined the same language will see messages from him. If user wants to speak to everyone (like "WTB/WTS" at NCR Bazaar), he can use some key or mark, like we using now /r, /s or /w. We both don't know if it's possible from technical side and how many languages needs to support, but maybe it is some solution for "english-or-die". "hellish language" and "damn cyryllic" issues?
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Re: What is on with all these russians?
« Reply #38 on: February 08, 2010, 04:31:32 pm »

or maybe add a translation option to the messages for all the lazy bums out there  ::)
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Re: What is on with all these russians?
« Reply #39 on: February 08, 2010, 05:17:37 pm »

or maybe add a translation option to the messages for all the lazy bums out there  ::)
Wrzuc ten tekst w translator i powiedz ile zrozumiales.

And I didn't use any polish diacritic mark, as I don't use them in game. Translation is bad idea and - I'm afraid - hard to implement. What I mean is another menu in Config, like "Languages", where you will be able to pick languages you want to read in game, or to be more exact - to read those people, who picked the same. You can still use f.e. /a, to be "seen" by all people around.
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Re: What is on with all these russians?
« Reply #40 on: February 09, 2010, 07:10:54 am »

I think all this crap... russians... non russians... all same for my plasma rifl... "was critically hit in the eyes for 200 and was killed" - this anyone can understand... if you cant communicate for trade - just kill someone and take for free or f**k yourself and die!!

ps: i was thinkin about essence of wastland and i think words like "civilised" are not for it... burn... kill... this is it!!

pps: sry for bad english.
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Re: What is on with all these russians?
« Reply #41 on: February 09, 2010, 10:40:23 am »

I want Russians to stay on this server. I'm Polish and I'm trying to learn some of their language, so it's very helpful to me. You see more retarded Russians is because that there are more Russians overall, but you can find the same % of a retards from every country. Options like: disable cyrlic are idiotic too, because Russians can speak their language with latin sings too.
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Re: What is on with all these russians?
« Reply #42 on: February 09, 2010, 10:51:30 am »

But then you can remember or write down the name of the retard to complain about :)
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Re: What is on with all these russians?
« Reply #43 on: February 09, 2010, 10:54:25 am »

Disabling it in chat would change nothing - except, perhaps, some Russian/Belorussian/etc. players would feel muted, while others will simply use translit, and will be equally incomprehensible.

What about chinesse then? Or arabic? etc etc :<

I am against promoting cyrlic in english community oriented game.
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Re: What is on with all these russians?
« Reply #44 on: February 09, 2010, 10:57:15 am »

It would be idiotic to disable it completely. We can go over to TLA just as easily as they can come over to 2238. Maybe making them unable to make cryllic names (because it's almost impossible to identify them if you don't know the language) but disabling them from speaking it altogether is just stupid.
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