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Author Topic: What is on with all these russians?  (Read 8102 times)

Re: What is on with all these russians?
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2010, 01:24:00 am »

In game my char has russian name and I have no problem with trading in NCR. I speak with people on english as I can.

p.s. my english is very bad ;D
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Re: What is on with all these russians?
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2010, 03:49:19 pm »

Whats the problem? Im Czech. And just people have to accept that here in game is big part of players with slavonic roots. I can understand Czech, Slovakian, bit Poland, Bulgarian, Russian and so on. And Cyrillic? Thats no problem. If you are with slavonic roots, just learn the ABC and u get the point of talk. If u arent. U dont need to know ABC, because it wont tell u even a sh** ehm nothing. So stop being NAZI and let this server multi language :) Because its nice. Server pure english is boring :)
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Re: What is on with all these russians?
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2010, 03:50:56 pm »

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Then just don't allow non-english characters into general chat and encourage people to use their native-speak in "Out of character" if you must. And I guess removing cyrilic would only do some good to russians playing. People became really nazi about them after behaviour of some of them so they get shot on sight now. It's only making cross hate bigger then smaller.

I can't believe posts like this... How about letting Russians (or any other language group) decide what's good for them on their own?
What does it bother you, people, that someone uses a language you can't understand? It's their choice with whom they want to communicate. If you can't understand something they say, it means it's not addressed to you. Stop being fucking egocentric. And it's bullshit that you can't communicate with people. From my experience almost everyone knows some basic English. Let it be just "buy", "sell", "don't kill". Personally, I like that this game is so multinational, because I actually enjoy trying to talk in different languages.
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Re: What is on with all these russians?
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2010, 07:17:31 pm »

You know how many mmos have multi language support? None because its a fucking stupid idea. The whole point is player interaction, you can't do that if you can't understand each other. Non english speakers should stick to TLA.
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Re: What is on with all these russians?
« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2010, 07:36:30 pm »

Server pure english is boring :)

Why ?
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Re: What is on with all these russians?
« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2010, 07:44:09 pm »

First of all, fonline is a great game and I can see the huge effort that is put into this.

The only thing that is bothering me is the lack of a common launguage.  You go to NCR: people speak polish, russian(mostly) and even swedish.
I mean the russians for example have their own server where english is forbidden. so cant we have a server where the only language for interaction is english?

and ps. sorry for my bad english :)

btw.   where can i get a new  guns and bullets magazine. Some fuck stole it from me.

when I asked for help, I helped without hesitation and without looking at what has helped the Englishman.
Why when I ask for help at the forum, I get 0?
why when we drove vertiberd administrator simply erased it without giving fly?
why in the test of protection in Jinktaune was killed only people with money (130000) for the base?
why they have not returned (I asked)?
because I'm from Russia and do not understand English.
you are sure that after such a dishonest game I'll benevolent?
Conversely, I have a desire to become worse than I was before.
if my honest money do not want to return, I will have to earn money in another way.
no problem? Yes, but now you will have more problems, even from 2 people.
Why do not you want to be a man and not be afraid so Russian?
a lot of chatter about discrimination, but English is put above everything.
is not a threat, it is a fact.
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Re: What is on with all these russians?
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2010, 08:00:42 pm »

when I asked for help, I helped without hesitation and without looking at what has helped the Englishman.
Why when I ask for help at the forum, I get 0?
why when we drove vertiberd administrator simply erased it without giving fly?
why in the test of protection in Jinktaune was killed only people with money (130000) for the base?
why they have not returned (I asked)?
because I'm from Russia and do not understand English.
you are sure that after such a dishonest game I'll benevolent?
Conversely, I have a desire to become worse than I was before.
if my honest money do not want to return, I will have to earn money in another way.
no problem? Yes, but now you will have more problems, even from 2 people.
Why do not you want to be a man and not be afraid so Russian?
a lot of chatter about discrimination, but English is put above everything.
is not a threat, it is a fact.

Sorry mate, but i'l never understand this until someone translates it to me.
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Re: What is on with all these russians?
« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2010, 08:19:38 pm »

You know how many mmos have multi language support? None because its a fucking stupid idea. The whole point is player interaction, you can't do that if you can't understand each other. Non english speakers should stick to TLA.

Well, how exactly removing/punishing/whatever everybody who cannot or refuses to use English, will help you interact with them? If you can't interact with someone who can't speak English, you even more won't be able to interact with them if they are on TLA. Your argument doesn't make any sense.

It's not like different languages limit your freedom, they give you more OPTIONS. You can talk to those people, but you don't have to.

>> Server pure english is boring

> Why ?


It's not that it's boring, it's just less interesting. Trying to communicate with someone without common language is interesting interaction on its own.
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Re: What is on with all these russians?
« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2010, 09:24:08 pm »

If people want to be realistic about the entire post-apocalyptic NORTH AMERICAN survival mmorpg, then I would have to agree that having a ton of Russians or other foreign peoples running around what is left of the United States speaking THEIR OWN native tongue is a little bit far of a stretch isn't it?? ((When did they get here? they drop bombs?How'd they all come to run around the country like this? xD))

Now, having said that... Racism, is bad  mmm-kay!? BUT there are mutants, ghouls and just general crazies (( meaning they the npc's))that will not hesitate to kill you either ((or give you a warning in ANY language))... There are an even amount, I think, of foreigners(( ie Russians,Polish,Icelandic,Norwegian etc..)) and even english speaking Americans that do not care what language you speak, they just want your shit... seriously, you will die O_O.

 I hate seeing people speaking a language I dont understand too, especially when I am wondering if their huge group of Russians are going to kill me again, but it's the way the game is...
I also hate to admit it, but having that kind of language-driven paranoia is exactly what this game needs to make it more "authentic" feeling and realistic.

 N'est ce pas?
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Re: What is on with all these russians?
« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2010, 09:49:08 pm »

It amazes me that surely there are people, which would call you a racist for calling someone "a fucking nigger" or "a stinking jew" just for kicks, but at the same time it bothers them, that some people are using their own language.

As for "language realism", there's really such a shitload of things that don't make sense in this game either in relation to the real world or game lore, that the language issue should be the last anyone should care about.

And just for reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California#Languages
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As of 2005, 57.59% of California residents age five and older spoke English as a first language at home, while 28.21% spoke Spanish. In addition to English and Spanish, 2.04% spoke Filipino, 1.59% spoke Chinese (which included Cantonese [0.63%] and Mandarin [0.43%]), 1.4% spoke Vietnamese, and 1.05% spoke Korean as their mother tongue. In total, 42.4% of the population spoke languages other than English.
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Re: What is on with all these russians?
« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2010, 09:59:57 pm »

I dont mind others speaking their own language, but its really sad that 2/3 of shouts in NCR are russian. Atleast disable cyrillic in shouts or something.
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Re: What is on with all these russians?
« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2010, 10:05:50 pm »

Oh, yeah, that makes sense.
And how would you feel if Latin characters were disabled in shouts?
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Re: What is on with all these russians?
« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2010, 10:11:32 pm »

I dont mind others speaking their own language, but its really sad that 2/3 of shouts in NCR are russian. Atleast disable cyrillic in shouts or something.

There's a lot of non-native English speakers, so there's a lot of foreign languages. Deal with it.
Disabling cyrillic won't stop people from talking in Russian. It just will make Russian look stupid. Just like English looks stupid written in cyrillic.

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Re: What is on with all these russians?
« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2010, 10:23:57 pm »

Either way it doesnt make the game any less enjoyable in my opinion.
It's frustrating, yes, that a majority of the shouts I see that are not useless spam are in a language I cannot even begin to understand. ((No, I will not waste my grinding time looking up what you're all saying in google! For yes, I have been told by some of these people to do my research if I cant understand them... and yes, they did say to use google to translate. They did tell me to do that using english quite well however))

It's easier to ignore people who you dont understand anyways... It's the same damn thing as not being able to understand them in the first place. Or something...
I dont understand Spanish either, but the people I run into who speak Spanish do speak in english just as frequently.
I guess when it all comes down to it, there really isnt much you can do about this. It's unrealistic to expect the Devs to be in favour of something that would obviously upset a large amount of players. Disabling cyrillic from shouts would only cause more problems than anything.
I kind of think it's pretty, even if I dont understand it xD  
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Re: What is on with all these russians?
« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2010, 10:24:26 pm »

Then how come only one non-latin alphabet is used? Shouldn't all of them be enabled?
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