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Yes! I could use the extra perk slot

No! I need the HP for critters!

Gah! Just get rid of the perk!

[jonny rust]

So I took a poll here http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=16754.0 and found that most people lean towards 1 level of lifegiver.

please see the discussion there before commenting here...

[Crazy]

Heh, how much time we gonna need to tell that all perks have been reworked and it's useless to discuss about it right now?

[jonny rust]

I haven't seen that in the changelog, when did it happen?

[Wipe]

I haven't seen that in the changelog, when did it happen?

Changelog is posted AFTER changes are implemented, not BEFORE.

[jonny rust]

I understand that, this is just the first I have heard of it. I'm not sure if my IQ effects my hearing...

[Reiniat]

Heh, how much time we gonna need to tell that all perks have been reworked and it's useless to discuss about it right now?

rework all perks sound like a bad deal. create a new balanced game from nowhere will make a lot of exploits and powerful builts. anyway if something is wrong just change it, dont wait until next wipe.

for Jonny...he is just trolling you.

[spears]

If most people are taking one lifegiver, surely thats because they feel the second is inferior ro an alternative perk. So how does capping lifegiver add anything to the game?

[jonny rust]

If most people are taking one lifegiver, surely thats because they feel the second is inferior ro an alternative perk. So how does capping lifegiver add anything to the game?

in the other discussion the point was raised that 2 levels of life giver amount to a 75% hp increase, to me that seems a little excessive considering the effectiveness of many other perks. there is a reason why everyone picks it at least once. My issue with that is lack of diversity. As for capping it I would personally make the perk itself slightly better (perhaps a 6hp increase) but offer it only once at level 15 for a total 36 additional hp. that's about as useful as the discussed 'deadman walking' perk except you get to use the HP while you are actually still walking.

[Solar]

People take it once because the earlier lifegiver is better and competes against less good perks. With the new ones there will be three (!) levels, flat bonuses that are higher for the later perks.

I doubt most people will take 3 levels, but its all about creating options.

[jonny rust]

People take it once because the earlier lifegiver is better and competes against less good perks. With the new ones there will be three (!) levels, flat bonuses that are higher for the later perks.

I doubt most people will take 3 levels, but its all about creating options.

So the reworked lifegiver perk gives you a one-time addition instead of a cumulative one?

[Solar]

Indeed. Going to be possible to build some real tanks

[Rascal]

nice

[jonny rust]

I prefer Cadillacs...