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[avv]

Players play like they want, there's no need to excuse what they do ingame as long as it's not against the rules. There are still lots of generalizations and jokes related them that will never wear off. It's part of our community's shared consciousness.
Pks are kids, pvp players are dumb, roleplayers are weirdos, alt-users have no friends or life, soloists are retarded, crafters are pussies, testers are carebears, polaks are trolls, russians are common enemies, french are idiots, gms are abusers, devs are lazy, the whole playersbase are assholes - according to nameless gm.   

[Kilgore]

So, folks.. PKs and anti-PKs alike: what's your real life experience with the the military or military related? What's your real life experience with killing real people?

Funny

my military experience: I played q3. oh wait..

[Andr3aZ]

Players play like they want, there's no need to excuse what they do ingame as long as it's not against the rules. There are still lots of generalizations and jokes related them that will never wear off. It's part of our community's shared consciousness.
Pks are kids, pvp players are dumb, roleplayers are weirdos, alt-users have no friends or life, soloists are retarded, crafters are pussies, testers are carebears, polaks are trolls, russians are common enemies, french are idiots, gms are abusers, devs are lazy, the whole playersbase are assholes - according to nameless gm.   

youve forgot ze secret german and finnish faction that secretly rules the wasteland, but isnt mentioned here because it doesnt represent any real force in my opinion.

[Nice_Boat]

Killing people or being at the receiving end in games is fun. Killing people in real life or being at the receiving end of potentially lethal violence is absolutely devastating. Drawing a parallel between the two is like comparing sex to getting your dong cut off. No sane person would ever discuss their personnal experience with the latter on this board. Oh, and hippies who don't know how to use weapons and have no desire to learn are dramatically lacking masculinity.

[avv]

Killing people in real life or being at the receiving end of potentially lethal violence is absolutely devastating.

Really?

[Andr3aZ]

Oh, and hippies who don't know how to use weapons and have no desire to learn are dramatically lacking masculinity.

Who decides when a man is a man? A gentleman would walk but never run.

[Nice_Boat]

Really?

Ya, really.

Who decides when a man is a man? A gentleman would walk but never run.

Dunno about the details, but I bet that having a firm stance on being able to efficiently defend the things you value the most including your family is pretty important, yes.

[Andr3aZ]

Oh, and hippies who don't know how to use weapons and have no desire to learn are dramatically lacking masculinity.

Dunno about the details, but I bet that having a firm stance on being able to efficiently defend the things you value the most including your family is pretty important, yes.

I agree with you good sir, it is important to protect, but a man is not less a man if he refuses to fight or kill fathers,mothers,daughters or sons of other men.
Some people cant take the pressure/guilt to kill somebody who could be like you, just some guy whose family and loved ones will miss him if he were dead. And this, is not how we should define masculinity. It takes a man to be yourself and to stand for your ideals and point of view.

[avv]

Ya, really.

That only applies when you grow up in a society that discourages killing and regards it as a taboo. If you're born and raised in warrior culture where destroying the enemy is considered joyous and glorious sport, there's nothing to it.

[Nice_Boat]

I agree with you good sir, it is important to protect, but a man is not less a man if he refuses to fight or kill fathers,mothers,daughters or sons of other men.
Some people cant take the pressure/guilt to kill somebody who could be like you, just some guy whose family and loved ones will miss him if he were dead. And this, is not how we should define masculinity. It takes a man to be yourself and to stand for your ideals and point of view.

The point is you can't stand for your ideals when taken to the extreme if you don't have the tools and the training. The courage to embrace the pressure and guilt associated with going to that extreme is exactly what defines masculinity, at least in our culture. Opting out is like saying that your life and the lives of your loved ones are not worth that, which in my opinion is pretty cowardly and destructive to society. Saying that others, the proffesionals should do that in your place is immoral because you're basically stating that your life is invaluable while those proffesionals should risk theirs for the often meager salary they get... not to mention the fact that the odds of them actually being there for you are slim to say the least.

That only applies when you grow up in a society that discourages killing and regards it as a taboo. If you're born and raised in warrior culture where destroying the enemy is considered joyous and glorious sport, there's nothing to it.

Not really, no. This would only be true for a psychopath or a person that is incapable of perceiving his or her victim as a human being at all. The former is a medical condition, while the latter doesn't really occur in the developed world. I don't think either applies to anyone dwelling on this board and most certainly neither applies for any society in the modern world in general.

[_Youkai_]

Age: 23
Country: Brazil
My real life experience: Welcome to the Jungle!

[Swinglinered]

Back in 'Nam, we used to say "Jungle is Harsh".

Pretty much the only fun part was shooting a machine gun out of a helicopter, the rest is boring or terrifying or just really tiresome in various ways.

[aForcefulThrust]

So, folks.. PKs and anti-PKs alike: what's your real life experience with the the military or military related? What's your real life experience with killing real people?

Um.... 

I must admit that posting all this makes me feel silly

It should...

[Handyman]

my grand father was veteran.... I'm Polish Nation and my grandfather stand against comunism and was in death cell  ( senteced to death) but thanks to let's call it luck he was freed  but he died in january. My family tradition is to be against donno the word but let's call it the enemy. so cheers for all good boys !