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[Luterus]

Hallo there, first post here. My apologies to the moderators if this is not the right sub forum. Feel free to move, lock, delete.. You get the picture.

I started playing Fonline some three weeks ago, this is my first experience with a multyplayer game. I have two alts, Luterus and the new born Calvinus.. I really don't know why I chose these names, but.. Oh well, those who usually dwell in the Junktown/Hub area probably know me. Anyway.. You'll probably go "Oh noes, another noob bitching about PKs"

Yes, here you go another one.

Before starting to play Fonline I thought PKs usually were young, inexperienced kids.. I realize it really is not this way. Lurking in the forums I got the feeling that many of them  are adult and probably educated men. They do sound like this. But..
One thing that strikes me is the "Wasteland is a harsh place" cliché. I know Fonline is an international community, this means people coming from countries which are/were under dictatorship or in state of actual war. Something the Wastes really cannot compete with.
So, folks.. PKs and anti-PKs alike: what's your real life experience with the the military or military related? What's your real life experience with killing real people?

Let's start.
Country: Italy
Age: 43
My real life experience: I'm not a veteran. My only experience consists of a 12 months compulsory military service back in 1990. I served as a military jail guard for 9 months, after a 3 months training. If you get the picture of a U.S.A. movie set in a jail.. Well, you watched a couple of U.S.A. jail movies too many. NOT a fun experience anyway.
What I learnt: The more a criminal wants to sound reasonable, the more he stinks.

I must admit that posting all this makes me feel silly, but I'm an old timer, an old school gamer and I started playing Fonline becouse I hoped to feel the old feelings again.. Something this game does not deliver, sorry.

[RavenousRat]

The only reason why I can't sometimes kill for no reason is because of empathy, I don't want to spoil mood of someone else, if I don't know this person, that's why I usually trying to see the worst in people and always find a reason for bad actions, or else I would feel myself bad, if actions wasn't lawful and justified. Even when on troll alt I convienced newbie to bring me to his tent because "i can upgrade it", I couldn't rob him, he was so naive, in his bluesuit, standing and waiting till I start upgrading his tent... I said that I'm not tent-upgrader and that it's impossible to do that in game, I just a "tent-robber", I checked his box, there were alot items, my troll alt is unarmed character, I asked him if I can borrow mega-powerfist from his box, he wasn't against it... everything else I left in box and simply left his tent. Even when I was abusing idolized stuff and merc "oops"ing I didn't killed anyone for no reason, with idolized I was shooting not-so-good people who PKing around NCR and those who shot me in NCR 1st so I simply had to self-defence, with merc abuse I only brought some guys to negative HP and then stoped shooting, everyone who died by this abuse did it because of thier own fault by guards. The only time when I killed innocent was bombing with dynamite, and even there I tried to bomb blues who has nothing to lose... well, actually I didn't know that because I couldn't check if they had items or not, and often they had, because thier bodies whispered bad words about me and about thier lost items/caps.
So, personally, my opinion, if you see someone PKing you and they did it not because you were a threat for them, but because they like to kill people, it's thier problems, you see that they have problems and it's enough for you, everyone has thier own life, just leave them with it, may be someone has bad life where they're victims for no reason, so they're trying to be hunters in FOnline.

[Haraldx]

Welcome to the forums, Luterus!

Definitely not a veteran myself. The "Wasteland is harsh" cliche is just to shut up those care bears - "OMG, i got robbed in the middle of NCR wtf" and others. FOnline is pretty much like Fallout 2 - Remember those shopkeepers and other people you shot or robbed while playing the game just to get more experience or something? Well, in FOnline, these guys you shoot to get experience loot or anything are regular players. The problem mostly is with players not realizing they did the same thing in original Fallout games.

My experience.
Country: Latvia
Age: [Hidden]
My real life experience: Never served in military, considering it tho. My life is all fucked up, school fights etc. etc.
What I learnt: The more you ask for mercy, the weaker you are. Internet is shit. The wasteland is harsh, and so is the real life.

[headshot]

What's the point to compare real killings with killings in computer game? With all respect but it's pointless. Also, FOnline: 2238 is not Falloutish as many of us, players (including me) thought.  This universe giving you huge amount of freedom, so the key is to find a proper people to play with. I don't judge if the better is to find the crazy berserkers or some kind of peace keepers. It's just matter of personal preferences.

Country: Poland
Age: 21
Military Experience: Due to eye disease I cannot serve in armed forces in the peace period (but I'm moving to regular service in case of war). I was helping in promotion of proffessional service in Polish Armed Forces as the GFX by making promoting/recruting movie sequences non-profit. LAter, when I end the cooperation with group who made this, my adventure with military was end. But I like to play Air Soft ocassionally and regulary shooting with my air gun if I talk about experience with replicas and low-profile weaponary.

[yoz]

Are you trying to draw a parallel between killing in real life and killing in a game?

LOL

[LagMaster]

country: Romania
age:17 years
military experience:prestige I level 23 CoD MW2 multiplayer

[Michaelh139]

Welcome to fonline, where nostalgia from the good ol' games are right around the corner... and so is a guy with a minigun waiting to blow your ass away and shit on what's left.  

Admittedly I find this extremely entertaining in the game.  Everywhere you went in old fallouts (Not in towns but that adds to it for me!) you could get raped to death by anything, especially in the beginning.  So I actually think the game is on the right track.  But I understand everyone's anger and things, because I have ragequit over things i've done to other people that's been done to me, but I still do them.  Why?  Because it's exciting and crazy and brings up a lot of emotions in people.  It's great.

Honestly, do as you feel, be what you want, but don't "seriously" diss someone on these things.  I diss them on these things because they are my enemies, it's psychological warfare in my eyes. Anger makes people slip up.

Anyways, to your actual question:  

Country:  United States of America (USA)
Age: 15 (har har your initial theory sticks to me)
My real life experience:  I grew up in the ghettos, there is kiling, raping, drugs etc etc there.  I generally tried to stay away from the shit but it kept coming to me.  A mexican was even giving me death threats in school.  So me and my family moved up here in North Carolina, which is white town as you can image, there are still some minorities here, blacks, mexican, etc, which are pretty much just like the guys in West Memphis but they don't pull shit with me.  Since I got alot of friends here.  I've shot guns at targets and when hunting but never at a person obviously.
What I've learned:  Everyone is as they seem, just stay away unless you're asking for trouble.  The world is violent and harsh, get used to it you little bitch.

[falloutdude]

age 17
country - canada
militarty expierence. none i thought about it but my gf talked me out of it so i decided that when am done school am going to do the next best thing to help my country fight the good fight ... at home as a police officer or some type of security. going to do police foundations about 1 year then after thats done will see what happens.

[Surf]

Age: 15
My real life experience:  I grew up 

Sorry, but that really made me giggle a bit. 

To join this roundtable of general introduction, Hello, my name is Frank, I am 23 and I have an alcohol problem I'm from germany. No, I never shot nor hold a gun, neither have I planned to do that. I don't hold any feelings or national pride towards my country and will not go into any military services (not mandatory anymore here anyway). I am with the OP that FOnline fails a bit to deliver the original Fallout feeling, but that's not the games fault, it's the people playing it. Unfortunately, this is the case with pretty much every MMO.

[Y0ssarian]

Are you trying to draw a parallel between killing in real life and killing in a game?

Columbine shooting
V-tech massacre

Obviously the asian guy didn't go out of his way to collect guns from Counter Strike because he believed in the 2nd amendment.

[yoz]

Columbine shooting
V-tech massacre

Obviously the asian guy didn't go out of his way to collect guns from Counter Strike because he believed in the 2nd amendment.

Brb, going to shoot everyone at school.

[Y0ssarian]

Have fun and don't forget your kevlar! 

[Keldorn]

The original Fallouts could get ya killed but then again, getting stuff was a bit easier through quests.  In Fonline, the whole PVE aspect is really still very incomplete.  Also this era has cooldowns which really wasted peoples real life time so its more like comparing apples and oranges.

I don't think asking peoples info on the internet proves anything.

I admit I have also been guilty of associating age with lulz behavior but its not always accurate.  Some people are just THAT fucking bored and when a game like Fonline gives them such freedoms, they abuse the shit out of it.  More of a byproduct of the system.

[Eternauta]

Welcome, Luterus. Something tells me the atmosphere of 2238 (no matter if it's in game, on this forum or on IRC) will not be entirely pleasant to you, but I hope you don't leave after a month or something like that, which we see often. Not all players are loln00bpwnzors

I am 20 years old and I'm Argentinean, something I have started to feel proud about after not caring about it during most of my short life. I have never shot a gun but would not mind training. Military service is not obligatory anymore in my country (probably the only good thing neoliberalism did here) and I would not join our Armed Forces as they as an institution still stick to a reactionary ideology.

I enjoy this game although I obviously agree with the idea that it doesn't offer a true Fallout feeling, and I too think this is mostly because of the playerbase and not only because of technical aspects. I find TC a bit boring, but I do enjoy small scale PvP skirmishes, and if it's with low tier gear, even better.

[zuhardu]

Welcome, Luterus. You seem the type "bring order to chaos" guy. My advice: join a apk faction, make some power builds, learn to play in Hinkley and after that punish all the bad, educated, old pks.

And of course some of the pks are old, educated people. Just like some of the apk are silly, lol pokemons. We all assume a role in this game and try to play it as good as we can. Also, I really don't think that playing as a pk or a apk has anything to do with the country or the regim that players live in.

It's all about having fun cuz that's what games are about, even if many of the FOnliners forget that sometimes. Cheers!