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[Badger]

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheGreatPlayerVersusPlayerDebate

Nice to know we're not the only game who've had the same arguments since forever.

[Reiniat]

No pity , no mercy , no remorse just a cold blooded kill without even saying a word , gazing at the body for a moment , giving a stiff look and then leaving.

Perfect.....

No sorry , no forgiveness , nothing it's not even personal. Kill just for the sport , kill just to pull the trigger , kill just to hear the bullet leave the gun.

Nothing personal.

i dont know if someone really understand it, but the purpose of say "nothing personal" or "this is not personal" is mean "THIS IS FUCKIN PERSONAL SOLOZZO, THIS IS FOR SHOT TO MY FATHER, DIE DIE!!!!!" you cant kill people with hate, because you will fail, so you convince yorself that is not personal, but youre really enjoyng your acts.
Also you cant say that yourent enjoying murdering, the posibility of sadism in this game is awesome, i love to say "hello i help you to hunt" or "i FA you, look im holstering my weapon"before of kill, or laugh in my victim corpse and say "this is not personal" is like an insult in that situation.
and of course like a good player i dont get ofended by another PKers, even if they are grinding, first time i play i gt killed like 6 times for 28DaysLater, and i dont get ofended i try to be like him.

The only thing i really hate of this game is mercenraries there is not any game capable pvp and mercs, exept for games like Age of Empires, or with a very buff to the mercs, i wish to eliminate them, unfortunately isnt posible.

[NurseRatchet]

When I first started playing FOnline I noticed that a lot of people who got PKed, including the people who got me started on the game, would get so angry about being PKed that they would quit for sometimes weeks. I NEVER understood that. Sure I was a little angry about getting PKed in the beginning but now I see it as just another wasteland learning experience. I always smile and tell my PKer "nice one " or some similar shit. Because, after all, the times I have been PKed, my attacker did it in a very awesome and skilled way and it impressed me very much. Why not compliment them, especially if you were a worthy adversary?

Now that I am familiar with the game and at least have a decent amount of skill, I am able to PK random people myself but I follow certain PKing "rules". Let's be honest, we all PK at some point once we have the level and the skill, and we ALL have certain little rules we PK by. And just for shits and giggles I will share mine:

- ALWAYS return the person's loot to them in a nearby protected town. I always instruct them to meet me in ___, give their shit back, and no one is ever angry after that.
- NEVER PK bluesuits. Seriously, that is just retarded. It makes newbies never give the game a chance because every time they try to harvest materials and make something of their character, some asshole blows their shit up and takes it all before they even can make a tent.
- Against anyone with combat armor or brotherhood armor and especially in RT: burst first, ask questions later.
- BE FUCKING FRIENDLY. I don't get why so many people are huge douchebags in this game! THIS GAME IS ABOUT SURVIVAL, WHICH INCLUDES KILLING EACH OTHER, DEAL WITH IT AND LAUGH ABOUT IT LATER. Just as the OP said.

Also, I had a PVP once with Gokhanz myself. He was the victor but complimented me and I told him I hoped to see him again sometime. He is an awesome wastelander and I wish there were more awesome wastelanders out there than there are.

Get a sense of humor people. It's a game. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE FUN. If you get PKed, don't quit, GO GET STRONGER AND PK THAT MOTHERFUCKER BACK! The wasteland is vast, the wasteland is populated with all kinds of differently skilled people, and the wasteland is motherfucking amazing.

[SIGISMUND]

You won't be the first and neither the last to be killed by a pk.Get used to it or walk away.This is not Metin2 or other piece of shit mmo where if you are low level you are invincible.No son no.This is a real mmo in fact this is the wasteland son there is no mercy for weak here.I suggest you get your mind right with either continuing playing this or not. This is like the 20 st topic of this type I see in 3 months. Or just join a darn APK faction . There is C88,TTTLA and some other I don't remember.

[headshot]

Well as for me, PvP is then, when player fights versus other player(s). But dying from 1hex retarded burst in guarded town is pure PK actually. So the "PvP Player" and "PK Player" are the two different terms imho. That explains why people usually hates "PKrs".

Btw, SIGISMUND, as far as I know, TTT LA isn't APK faction.

[Michaelh139]

There is no such thing as anti-pk this era.  There was sort of prewipe I am willing to say... but no thing now.

[Keldorn]

1.  Pkers contribute to paranoia.  They in a way compel others to continue the cycle of mindless violence since nobody could be trusted.  People who shoot first therefore have a much higher survival chance.  The presence of alts is primarily due to the violent nature of the game since its much more efficient to craft ones own things than to trust a psycho, which is the majority of the population.

2.  Rewards.  The gains from PKing vastly outweight any other method of item acquisition.  Considering its the same PK teams that also farm encounters, this leads to an in-ordinate amount  of wealth going to a certain playstyle therefore fucking over any other chance for a different playstyle.  Hence this game is a bit of a one trick pony.

3.  System.  Granted it will be changed next era, cooldowns are stupid.  People are losing lots of real life time gaining shit and BAM, some PKers rob them blind.  I don't care how often the Pkers themselves got PKd, their playstyle is forcing everyone else to conform or risk losing time and energy.  5 hours for BA when one can get it from gridcamping/shoot the eyes?  

In all fairness, its half-pkers and half the system.  Change the risk/rewards scenario a bit along with the paranoia and pk might not be so bad.  I always thought combat was meant to be fun, a test of natural skill and strategy with braggings rights to the victor.  Throw in item loss and you lose the spirit of competition. Instead, its replaced with cheap tactics designed to gain victory through minimal amounts of risk.  In the case of the TC system, its people with multiple combat alts along with cheese tactics to win attrtion style warfare.

P.S.  By the way Badger great read/link.  It explains both sides of PVP quite clearly even if the non UPVP side makes more sense logically.

[yoz]

I always smile and tell my PKer "nice one " or some similar shit.

Are you sure?

[Swinglinered]

Are you sure?

You still up to your old tricks Yoz?

[runboy93]

If you got killed by PK then just keep smiling
What PKs want to see is despair and people stop playing.

When you got PKed then just keep playing. Don't stop.
You just help PKs to get stronger and more annoing if you do that.

[Fusei]

Well i'm a hther with no pvp experience, the only guy i killed was a thief but i've been pked quite some times. Of course i was a little mad, but i wouldn't even consider playing the game if there were no pkers. Seriously do you enjoy the carebear world of fallout 3 and NV ?
Imo this is the fallout spirit : a harsh and desolate world with barely no order. And (some) people take advantage of it. Shoot first talk after is pure logic, i won't/can't do it (i just run ^^") but i don't blame people doing it.
What i blame however is what Keldorn said about pking blue suit, that's just lame. Another lame thing, yesterday one(?) retarded brat killed a merchant in NCR. What's the purpose of this ? With all the guard around, I don't think the guy had time to escape, so what does it accomplish other than wasting people time ?
I love the pk in this game but hate the "being-a-jerk-for-being-a-jerk" thing.

[NurseRatchet]

Are you sure?

yoz your comment made my night. :>

[T-888]

i dont know if someone really understand it, but the purpose of say "nothing personal" or "this is not personal" is mean "THIS IS FUCKIN PERSONAL SOLOZZO, THIS IS FOR SHOT TO MY FATHER, DIE DIE!!!!!" you cant kill people with hate, because you will fail, so you convince yorself that is not personal, but youre really enjoyng your acts.
Also you cant say that yourent enjoying murdering, the posibility of sadism in this game is awesome, i love to say "hello i help you to hunt" or "i FA you, look im holstering my weapon"before of kill, or laugh in my victim corpse and say "this is not personal" is like an insult in that situation.
and of course like a good player i dont get ofended by another PKers, even if they are grinding, first time i play i gt killed like 6 times for 28DaysLater, and i dont get ofended i try to be like him.

The only thing i really hate of this game is mercenraries there is not any game capable pvp and mercs, exept for games like Age of Empires, or with a very buff to the mercs, i wish to eliminate them, unfortunately isnt posible.

Actually killing people because of hate would be considered as revenge , retribution. Mostly I don't even remember people I kill , I don't even care whats the loot if it's a bluesuit I don't take it anyway. I don't enjoy killing bluesuits , I just kill because I can. Like I said nothing personal

You know whats personal ?
 If I would find somebody on purpose and then kill him that's personal , but mostly bluesuits get in the wrong place at the wrong time and then face the consequences , because I really don't care if they live or die , I have bullets to spare so then they die.
 

[kiki123]

http://www.thenoobcomic.com/index.php?pos=68

Wtf.... where do u find this kind of shit.... some people really have alot of time on their hands

[Suupah]

I like killing pkers