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Author Topic: Talk about 3D era  (Read 9731 times)

Re: Talk about 3D era
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2011, 11:57:56 am »

Maybe use Cold Zero engine?
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Offtopic: How Black Isle & Interplay made 2D critters? Maybe there are some programms?
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Re: Talk about 3D era
« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2011, 01:44:01 pm »

Maybe use Cold Zero engine?I don't know  :(


Lol pixel drawing maybe :))
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Re: Talk about 3D era
« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2011, 02:18:23 pm »

Yep make it like van burren with 3D enviorments.
The engine is already supporting 3D walls, tiles, environment objects. Literally - everything. But it doesn't YET support 360 degree rotation. Though, I believe it's a matter of time.
Currently Cvet are working on porting engine to the Linux, which should significantly increase the server's stability and performance.
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Re: Talk about 3D era
« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2011, 02:25:26 pm »

But it doesn't YET support 360 degree rotation. Though, I believe it's a matter of time.

Will be 360 option in the future? Is it possible?
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Re: Talk about 3D era
« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2011, 02:55:50 pm »

Let's stay in 2.5D, with fixed camera :P
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Re: Talk about 3D era
« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2011, 02:58:55 pm »

I think I'll wait to judge 3D when it's done, because currently you're stuck with horrible looking face, dull armor and WIP animations.
Some progress is incredible ( character shape is really close to original, and some weapons are REALLY nice ), but on other hand I still don't like how armors look there and some of them are really horrible ( especialy metal armor, which is one of the most common armors currently worn in 2238 )
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Better do FULL 3D ENGINE!
I don't know if anyone is going for this, but it'd require quite a lot of time, not only to do assets looking like sprites, but also to make suree it's well controlable and user friendly.
I'd prefer 2D, and 3D actors if they really do look like sprites at default zoom.
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Re: Talk about 3D era
« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2011, 05:02:11 pm »

3D will be introduced so we can easly add new skins to caracters, so will not be neading to make 100000 frames for every new skin
this will save memory and we try to make them look like the original so it will not lose it's charm
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Re: Talk about 3D era
« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2011, 05:31:32 pm »

but on other hand I still don't like how armors look there and some of them are really horrible ( especialy metal armor, which is one of the most common armors currently worn in 2238 )
Metal Armor have some problems with the textures, not the model itself. You're free to make your own version and if it will be better, I see no reason why it wouldn't be used in the game.
P.S. If you need these textures, you can take them from the 3D repository.

Will be 360 option in the future? Is it possible?

I'm absolutely sure that such feature will be never introduced at 2238, while there could be such option for other projects.

Let's stay in 2.5D, with fixed camera :P

Honestly, 360 degree camera have a lot of advantages, if it's done properly. But as I already said I believe that it will be never introduced at 2238.

My main interest is aesthetic. I think if we were going to add guns we would have done so already. I'm just interested in having slightly more character variation. Shame we'll only use the regular hero model.
Who said that we are going to use the "hero" model only? Maybe you've been confused by the fact that this is the only model, which are ready to use.
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Re: Talk about 3D era
« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2011, 05:39:20 pm »

My main interest is aesthetic. I think if we were going to add guns we would have done so already. I'm just interested in having slightly more character variation. Shame we'll only use the regular hero model.
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Re: Talk about 3D era
« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2011, 06:00:23 pm »

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Re: Talk about 3D era
« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2011, 07:03:46 pm »

I'm absolutely sure that such feature will be never introduced at 2238, while there could be such option for other projects.
.... but it is possible to do? If yes, great I will use it on my private-fun server.
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Re: Talk about 3D era
« Reply #26 on: April 03, 2011, 07:43:21 pm »

.... but it is possible to do? If yes, great I will use it on my private-fun server.
Private fun server, huh? IF such feature will be implemented someday, it would require a lot of work to get some results, not just click -> done.
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Re: Talk about 3D era
« Reply #27 on: April 03, 2011, 09:31:47 pm »

Meh. Oh, and it's stillbirth.
http://planetfallout.gamespy.com/articles/news/207/Fallout-3-Online-Mod


Lizard that shit its a lie and its old.It has almost the same age as the Fallout 3 release.
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Re: Talk about 3D era
« Reply #28 on: April 04, 2011, 09:04:54 am »

How will work 360 camera? Will it for players move only or can I change camera what I want? How maps will be if 360 is here?
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Re: Talk about 3D era
« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2011, 10:10:56 am »

There won't be a 360deg view, not in the next 3years.
All tilles would need to be remade in 3d, ground textures, rocks, trees, grass, walls, buildings, shelvs, tables, tents...all of it. Then all maps would need to be recreated using the new tilles.
But there's more! There would need to be a engin upgrade to optimize each map (send geoms to the gpu in bigger batches not one by one).
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