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Author Topic: Disable mercenaries once for all!!!!  (Read 9192 times)

Re: Disable mercenaries once for all!!!!
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2011, 06:04:24 am »

Most of our members agree with disabeling mecenaries, same thing happends to us too, we are always entering in merc traps losing gear. It really spoils the fun of the game.

And Surf, please unlock our faction thread, it's not our fault that people are trolling on our thread. Don't punish us for others, ban the flamers do not close our thread.

And the kid that rages and is insulting everybody is not actually right, this is not about the mutants, it doesn't matter what kind of mercs the players are using, due to the bug the computer freezes, so disable all mercs.

So, you believe all mercs should be disabled due to the trolling of a few? By that logic your thread should indeed be closed  ::)

It would be better to simply make it a requirement that mercs be lvl'd up before they are truly useful (weak starting stats around the same as a normal player) Voila i doubt the merc trollers would really spend the 4-5 weeks to get a few mercs to a decent level to be able to troll with them.
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Re: Disable mercenaries once for all!!!!
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2011, 06:16:09 am »

May be there is a simple anti-lag solution?
Tweak merc's AI in this way:
Disable merc's auto-fire when new target is arrived UNTILL THIS TARGET WILL DO ANYTHING. I mean mercs (even aggressive ones) don't shoot automatically UNLESS YOU SHOOT OR MOVE.
Attack via Alt menu should be still available.
If implemented, there will be no bug "freeze on load because I got damage from merc while loading"

Removing muties is not a fix of anything. O'k no muties - next time I'll buy rocket bitches. They can run, they'll do the job. I will care even less of losing them, as caps no longer my concern. If somebody has no loads of caps - combat slaves.

Mercs btw is adding some balance to game. What can I do alone against a group of 4-5  no-lifer kids with voice chat and everything?
Now I can smash them with 6 rockets at time. Disabling mercs ? Bad idea - remove features like this from game. TLA or Requiem don't have mercs. Why don't go there?  ;)

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Voila i doubt the merc trollers would really spend the 4-5 weeks to get a few mercs to a decent level to be able to troll with them.
Even now merc commander with 5 muties risked a lot - 85kx5 investment, at least 2 days of leveling up, ammo and guns to level up. And can be lost in 1 fight (especially TB encounter). 4-5 weeks? 21 lvl char require 1-4 days to get level cap. Bad, bad idea
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Re: Disable mercenaries once for all!!!!
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2011, 07:13:04 am »

So, you believe all mercs should be disabled due to the trolling of a few? By that logic your thread should indeed be closed  ::)

They are not a few, I can't hunt more than 20-30 minutes without entering a merc trap. Most of our members are not using their TB alts anymore. And I agree with Doctor Eex, if disabeing mercs seems to rush at least disable auto-fire.
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Re: Disable mercenaries once for all!!!!
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2011, 09:43:35 am »

Mercs nice die in turn based from snipers =)
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Re: Disable mercenaries once for all!!!!
« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2011, 12:47:49 pm »

I have never dropped into any mercenary trap encounter ever last wipe, or this wipe.  Hell i have only encounter maybe 2 people this whole era alone.
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Re: Disable mercenaries once for all!!!!
« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2011, 12:52:51 pm »

I have never dropped into any mercenary trap encounter ever last wipe, or this wipe.  Hell i have only encounter maybe 2 people this whole era alone.

Lol, may be it is because you setting the traps yourself?  ;D
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Re: Disable mercenaries once for all!!!!
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2011, 01:01:08 pm »

I have never dropped into any mercenary trap encounter ever last wipe, or this wipe.  Hell i have only encounter maybe 2 people this whole era alone.

hard to say but me too , encountering pks is now very rare , only in places unguarded (V13 , V15 ) you can see them
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Re: Disable mercenaries once for all!!!!
« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2011, 01:48:40 pm »

We will already have tougher control on caps next time, but interest obviously needs to go also. It will stop mercs being so "cheap" that they can be thrown away without any thought.

I imagine mutants will take up more Ch points too, but I'm not sure about this as mercs aren't my thing.

I'd also like to see the delay on being able to attack people return, if for no other reason than to cover the loading time.
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Re: Disable mercenaries once for all!!!!
« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2011, 01:56:34 pm »

Doctor Eex i dont think you quite understood, mercs would suck balls at level 1, thus making it a lot harder to level them so getting to lvl 2 would even be difficult for the merc itself, the suggestion has nothing to do with the player character.
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Re: Disable mercenaries once for all!!!!
« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2011, 02:03:24 pm »

I imagine mutants will take up more Ch points too, but I'm not sure about this as mercs aren't my thing.

I like this idea.

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Re: Disable mercenaries once for all!!!!
« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2011, 02:20:26 pm »

Doctor Eex i dont think you quite understood, mercs would suck balls at level 1, thus making it a lot harder to level them so getting to lvl 2 would even be difficult for the merc itself, the suggestion has nothing to do with the player character.

Yes, I got your idea, but mercs are gun meat anyway. They are so EASY to lose. They will not worth efforts.

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I imagine mutants will take up more Ch points too

Sound very reasonable. More HP - less total team gunpower.
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Re: Disable mercenaries once for all!!!!
« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2011, 03:18:23 pm »

I'd rather want to see mercenaries deleted from the game than watching My flying body pieces everytime i enter "guarded" mining sites. "Master gave us a gift, we didn't obey his rules, he took it away". It's kinda normal that people die and suffer because of single abusers...
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Re: Disable mercenaries once for all!!!!
« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2011, 03:19:47 pm »

I'd rather want to see mercenaries deleted from the game than watching My flying body pieces everytime i enter "guarded" mining sites. "Master gave us a gift, we didn't obey his rules, he took it away". It's kinda normal that people die and suffer because of single abusers...

It's a matter of gridcamping, not mercs.
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Re: Disable mercenaries once for all!!!!
« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2011, 03:32:40 pm »

I imagine mutants will take up more Ch points too, but I'm not sure about this as mercs aren't my thing.

Yeah great idea! Maybe you can push this more, sg mercenarie take  2 charisma, bg take 3, mutant 4 etc.. Mutant are not the only merc problem, 5 bitch with rocket luncher is to powerfull to, same for laser rifle etc...
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Re: Disable mercenaries once for all!!!!
« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2011, 03:59:24 pm »

I already disabled the mutants seller but this is obviously just a temporary solution.
Disabling mutant seller now u disable chance of gangs whos dnt bought them yet. But some gangs whos bought them got benefit against others.
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