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Buff up unarmed and melee buids in TB and RT by giving them special perks-update
Doctor Eex:
--- Quote ---Master dodger is just stupid, we don't need it. What we need is a perk for pure melee builds that allows them more hp (possibly up to 270-280, something higher than 250). Make melee builds into tanking builds
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Why it is stupid?
And why "we don't need we don't need" You don't need may be.
Boosting hp won't do ANYTHING.
--- Quote --- promote unarmed/melee in PvE or in various tournaments/events.
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I'm not sure it is nice - to have a char useless all the time, except 1-2 events per era or punching brahmins.
O'k some of you people still want to pwn anything that moves with miniguns, I got it. And avv, master of micromanagement and shit, I got your point. But when somebody says - don't bring a knife to gunfights because it is unrealistic - I can say the same for human mounted miniguns and plasma rifles.
Because Fallout has rippers and powerfists, they should be far more useful than farm and sell ' em
Now some reasonable thoghts please. For those who don't want to boost unarmed and melee - just post something like "Minigon rulezz!!!" and stop flood please.
borse:
--- Quote ---Why it is stupid?
And why "we don't need we don't need" You don't need may be.
Boosting hp won't do ANYTHING.
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I don't see many melee builds, do you? That's where WE comes from.
Doctor Eex:
--- Quote from: borse on February 04, 2011, 10:45:29 AM ---I don't see many melee builds, do you?
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Because the suck so much as the are now. That's why I suggest to do something
avv:
--- Quote from: Doctor Eex on February 04, 2011, 09:53:00 AM ---Now some reasonable thoghts please. For those who don't want to boost unarmed and melee - just post something like "Minigon rulezz!!!" and stop flood please.
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There's nothing wrong with melee used in pvp, it's just a matter of how it's used. Worst way to implement it would be that meleedude has to only charge his targets and that's it. Sneaking would be more acceptable, but why sneak and stab if you can just shoot?
Melee could work accompanied with guns. When you're over range, you use guns but when you're really close it'd be better to use melee.
If you think about it, a strong big gunner could be a good fistfighter (except that our big gunners aren't strong) and sniper should without a doubt know how to handle a knife.
Game mechanics just have to be tuned to favour that kind of gameplay. Like I said, instant turning, too sweeping line of sight, equal running speed in all situations and instant firing just make it impossible to implement a melee in pvp so that it makes everyone happy. In addition to be good at melee, it demands too many perks that are away from gunfighting skills. However, perks like more crits and better crits work in melee and shooting so it's an example how perks should be like. Bonus ranged damage could be combined with bonus hth damage, same with brof and bhtha.
borse:
--- Quote from: Doctor Eex on February 03, 2011, 12:51:14 PM ---Who those who don't get it - THE WHOLE IDEA has nothing to do so-called "REALIZM"
Because F universe has nothing to do with it.
You play a bluesuit, who stands and looks epic.
Let us remember Chuck Norris for example. He can kill a mini-gunner.
Unarmed and melee should act as extremely deadly masters of fight like in the movies.
Imagine unarmed with 65% max chance hit running towards to minigunner. Miniguner burst, and unarmed has 35% chance to remain intact. Why? Because he's perfectly mastered to control his body, he makes somersaults and other evasive maneuvres. Yes we don't have such animation, but still can imagine.
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Seriously? Where is the logic in this?
So martial arts masters can move faster than bullets... No that happens only in the matrix.
The whole realism thing is bullshit, this IS Fallout Online and the only shit that should make sense is the shit that actually goes down in the fallout universe. I have not played one fallout game where my unarmed/melee skill has allowed me to dodge bullets. Nor have I really used a melee/unarmed weapon to charge an enemy with a gun. Why? Not because melee/unarmed suck, but because IT IS STUPID TO RUN HEAD ON TOWARDS A MAN WITH A GUN WITH THE INTENTION OF KILLING HIM WITH YOUR HANDS.
Melee/unarmed isn't nerfed, it's just meant for other things besides owning in PVP.
Want to use melee in pvp? Make a thrower/melee hybrid. Use frags to knock down enemy and beat him to death with your hands/melee weapon. OR use a sneak build.
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